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CreateYoureReality NFL SUPER WILDCARD WEEKEND Analysis and Picks

CreateYoureReality NFL SUPER WILDCARD WEEKEND Analysis and Picks
Week 17 Recap: Meh. Overall it was a decent week, we just missed on the Jets plus some points for a big day on a few plays.
Singles (10-12 +4.02u)
Parlays (0-2 -7u)
Teasers (0-1 -3.86u)
BBDLS (0-7 -9u)


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Super Wildcard Weekend!!!

Saturday Games

Colts at Bills: Quite an interesting matchup to open the day. The Colts only made it to the playoffs this year because the Bills helped them get in. The Colts needed the Bills to beat Miami in week 17, otherwise the Bills would be re-matching Miami, a team that they clearly would have crushed if they rested starters for a loss in week 17 like PIT. How ironic would it be if the Colts bumped the Red HOT Bills out in the first round?! 😅
Welp.... "The Bills are the fourth team over the last 40 seasons to enter the playoffs on an eight-game cover streak. The three teams before them all covered the spread in their first playoff game and won by at least 12 points. Additionally, Indy has failed to cover in each of its last three games, which is the longest active streak by a playoff team. "... it looks as if it might be an uphill battle.
However, lets not hop on the Bills Mafia train too quickly. It appears that around 80% of the tickets and the cash are on the Bills, but the line hasn't moved from its 6.5 open except to DROP down to 6 in some spots. This is very indicative on some sharp money keeping balance on the Indy side. The same is true for the total. 80% of the tickets and 75% of the money is on the over, but the line opened 51.5 and has stayed true, or dropped to 51 in some spots.
Looking deeper, we see one of the Bills weaknesses is their run defense. That plays perfectly into the Colts build as they are a team that likes to play great defense, establish the run, and take a few shots with Rivers. Also, Indianapolis ranks second in the NFL with an average of 10.3 first-quarter points per game and the Colts scored at least 20 points in the first half in four of their final five games. If the Colts can build an early lead and rely on the run, this game has potential for an upset. Especially with how sneaky good their defense can be.
As hard as it may be to bet, the value seems to be on the Colts with the points. If you're feeling really spicy and public contrarian, this is one of the three games I think a contrarian play holds some value this weekend.

Rams at Seahawks: The first of the two divisional rematches of the weekend. The LA Rams won their week 17 game with a backup QB in his first start. That places them up against the Seahawks who ended the season with a close divisional win vs. the 49ers.
(Before typing this rest of this match up, I want to put a disclaimer of Bias. I am on the Hawk train this year. My futures plays include them, and Baltimore(I had 4 futures plays paying above my "true odds" but the only two I played were SEA and BAL) Take my write up on this game with a grain of salt as I will be predicting SEA to win every game until they hold the SuperBowl trophy 🤑)
First off we have the Rams. One of the main things they have going for them is their defense. It is by far the best in the league, with the next closest defense being the Steelers. That defense is legit, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them sack Russ a few times and if they are lucky, get points on defense. The second thing they have going for them is their coach. I think (don't quote me) McVay is 5-3 against SEA since he took over and he just won last week with a QB that had never played a NFL snap and went on to throw a pick on the opening drive and score 0 TDs in the game. Even IF Goff comes back and is 100% healthy, he only threw for 536 yards with 0 touchdowns and an interception while posting a QBR of under 55 in the combined first two matchups this year.
Now Seattle on the other hand. If they can pull it all together, meaning their first half of the season offense with their second half of the season defense....Game over. On the league.
For this game in particular though, I don't think much has to be done. The most I can give back up QB for the Rams is 10-13 points and if Goff is in, I give him a ceiling of 20-23 points (Ceiling is all things going well) So IF Goff his 100 percent healthy, hits his ceiling, AND the Rams defense continues its regular season dominance by helping out with a score and keeping SEA under 24-27, then maybe the Rams can win.
But lets be real, the Rams were my second favorite team to come out of the NFC (Behind SEA) until they played the Jets. From that game on, it has been a feeling of MEH, when considering the Rams chances to advance this year. And to top that feeling off, Russ is a perfect 5-0 in post season Home Games and Carrol is also perfect at home in the post season at 6-0. The last time that Seattle lost in the playoffs at home was against the St. Louis Rams in 2004.
Now I know this isn't the Legion of Boom, and the 12th man won't be there because...COVID... but Russ and company having the edge of no travel, sleep in their own bed... Is all I need. I am ride or die on Seattle, baby!

Tampa Bay at Washington: This is one of the harder games for me to gauge. My algo has this as a Tampa Bay victory the majority of the time (82/18). It sees this game similar to the Rams situation in that their defense is pretty good, can possibly get some points, but the offense may have a hard time finding the end zone. My algo does favor this spot for the WAS defense, more than it does the Rams defense, based solely on the offensive line for TB vs SEA and the mobility of SEA QB vs. Lead Toes Tommy when he is under pressure. But, EVEN IF WAS somehow gets a defensive score and an extra turnover or two, can they really keep up with how Brady has been playing as of late? Alex Smith hasss returned from his gruesome injury like some kind of God, going 5-1 in his 6 starts this year.
ANNNNND
The only home underdogs of over a TD in NFL playoff history:
• 2010 7-9 Seahawks WON OUTRIGHT
"Beast Quake" - Marshawn Lynch's TD literally set off vibrations

• 2011 8-8 Broncos WON OUTRIGHT
"Tebow 3:16" - Tim Tebow throws for 316 yards & OT TD

• 2020 7-9 Washington ???? Five years ago, a 7-8-1 Carolina Panthers team coached by Ron Rivera beat an 11-5 Arizona Cardinals team coached by Bruce Arians in the first round of the playoffs.

So confused on this one, I may just look at Gronk to score a TD (He and Brady need 1 to break the record for QB/Pass catcher post season) and stay away from everything else. But Ill probably end up teasing TB and then around game time taking WAS plus the points and looking for a middle.

Sunday Games

Honestly, It is 2am and I wanna get some sleep. I will touch this up tomorrow, post it and post Sunday games on Sunday morning.

Singles (101-128-1, -26.09u)
  • Colts 1Q ml (1u to win 1.6u)
  • Colts 1Q Over 6.5 (1.5u to win 2u)
  • Colts +7.5 (2.7u to win 2u)
  • Lockett 60.5 Rec Yards Over (2.5u to win 2u)
  • Lockett 75+ Rec Yards and TD (0.5u to win 1.38u)
  • Gronk ATTS and Bucs win (2u to win 4.8u)
  • Mclaurin 70.5 Rec Yards Over (2.5u to win 2.5u)
  • Mclaurin 75+ Rec Yards and TD (0.5u to win 1.13u)

Parlays (6-32, +26.96u)
  • Colts 1Q +3.5, SEA ml, TB ml, Bal ml, Mitch T 15.5 Rush Yards Over, Cle 1Q +3.5 (12.43u to win183.07)
  • Colts 1Q +1.5, SEA ml, TB ml, Bal ml, Cle 1Q +1.5 (5u to win 69.65u) Basically the same bet, this was a profit boost on DK.

Teasers (4-5, +30.74u)
  • TB -2, PIT ml (1.3u to win 1u)
BBDLS (0-73, -59.24u)
  • Colts 16.5 First half points OVER, SEA ml, TB ml, BAL ml, CLE 1Q ml, Mitch T ATTS (4.57u to win 1001u)

Futures plays: (Disclaimer: This is the first season I am making such large Futures plays. These are based upon my algo, but more importantly the fact that the poker side of my life had a great 2020 and I set aside extra Bankroll for just this type of play. My future plays have a very small sample size of being +EV so tail with caution...because I sure am)
Seattle to win the NFC (100u to win 600u)
Seattle to win the Super Bowl (83.33u to win 1000u)
So, when crunching the different SB scenarios (with a Bias towards SEA having a 75% chance to win this first game and 50% chances to win the next two) It gave me that the SEA/BAL matchup was at 3.4 percent of the time and if we assume SEA wins that 50% of the time we get crudely a 1.7% chance of happening. DK is paying 100-1 for SEA to beat BAL in the superbowl. Since I already have futures on SEA to win the NFC and SB, I took the SEA to beat BAL 100-1 odds thinking that if by some stroke of luck we get the 1.7% universe, I will have already won SEA to win NFC and can consider hedging those winnings on the BAL side if they happen to be catching points.
I know its a universe that is only 1.7% in existence (and that's in my mind too, haha) but based upon those calculations the casinos true odds should be closer to 58.8-1 and they are paying 100 to 1.
So to wrap all that up...
LETS GO ALL BIRDS SUPERBOWL!!!!
SEA to beat BAL in the SuperBowl (90u to win 9000u)

Thanks for reading everyone! Check back tomorrow for my Sunday picks. Good luck to all! 🤩
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What a USL D1 league might look like

TL;DR: Man with too much time on his hands goes deep down the rabbit hole on a concept this sub already didn’t seem that enthusiastic about. If you really want to skip ahead, CTRL+F “verdict” and it’ll get you there.
Two days ago, u/MrPhillyj2wns made a post asking whether USL should launch a D1 league in order to compete in Concacaf. From the top voted replies, it appears this made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
But I’ve been at home for eight weeks and I am terribly, terribly bored.
So, I present to you this overview of what the USL pyramid might look like if Jake Edwards got a head of steam and attempted to establish a USSF-sanctioned first division. This is by no means an endorsement of such a proposal or even a suggestion that USL SHOULD do such a thing. It is merely an examination of whether they COULD.
Welcome to the Thunderdome USL Premiership
First, there are some base-level assumptions we must make in this exercise, because it makes me feel more scientific and not like a guy who wrote this on Sunday while watching the Belarusian Premier League (Go BATE Borisov!).
  1. All D1 teams must comply with known USSF requirements for D1 leagues (more on that later).
  2. MLS, not liking this move, will immediately remove all directly-owned affiliate clubs from the USL structure (this does not include hybrid ownerships, like San Antonio FC – NYCFC). This removes all MLS2 teams but will not affect Colorado Springs, Reno, RGVFC and San Antonio.
  3. The USL will attempt to maintain both the USL Championship and USL League One, with an eventual mind toward creating the pro/rel paradise that is promised in Relegations 3:16.
  4. All of my research regarding facility size and ownership net worth is correct – this is probably the biggest leap of faith we have to make, since googling “NAME net worth” and “CITY richest people” doesn’t seem guaranteed to return accurate results.
  5. The most a club can increase its available seating capacity to meet D1 requirements in a current stadium is no more than 1,500 seats (10% of the required 15,000). If they need to add more, they’ll need a new facility.
  6. Let’s pretend that people are VERY willing to sell. It’s commonly acknowledged that the USL is a more financially feasible route to owning a soccer club than in MLS (c.f. MLS-Charlotte’s reported $325 million expansion fee) and the USSF has some very strict requirements for D1 sanctioning. It becomes pretty apparent when googling a lot of team’s owners that this requirement isn’t met, so let’s assume everyone that can’t sells to people who meet the requirements.
(Known) USSF D1 league requirements:
- League must have 12 teams to apply and 14 teams by year three
- Majority owner must have a net worth of $40 million, and the ownership group must have a total net worth of $70 million. The value of an owned stadium is not considered when calculating this value.
- Must have teams located in the Eastern, Central and Pacific time zones
- 75% of league’s teams must be based in markets with at a metro population of at least 1 million people.
- All league stadiums must have a capacity of at least 15,000
The ideal club candidate for the USL Premiership will meet the population and capacity requirements in its current ground, which will have a grass playing surface. Of the USL Championship’s 27 independent/hybrid affiliate clubs, I did not find one club that meets all these criteria as they currently stand.
Regarding turf fields, the USSF does not have a formal policy regarding the ideal playing surface but it is generally acknowledged that grass is superior to turf. 6 of 26 MLS stadiums utilize turf, or roughly 23% of stadiums. We’ll hold a similar restriction for our top flight, so 2-3 of our top flight clubs can have turf fields. Seem fair?
Capacity is going to be the biggest issue, since the disparity between current requirements for the second-tier (5,000) and the first tier (15,000) is a pretty massive gap. Nice club you have there, triple your capacity and you’re onto something. As a result, I have taken the liberty of relocating certain (read: nearly all) clubs to new grounds, trying my utmost to keep those clubs in their current markets and –importantly--, ensure they play on grass surfaces.
So, let’s do a case-by-case evaluation and see if we can put together 12-14 teams that meet the potential requirements, because what else do you have to do?
For each club’s breakdown, anything that represents a chance from what is currently true will be underlined.
Candidate: Birmingham Legion FC
Location (Metro population): Birmingham, Ala. (1,151,801)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Legion Field (FieldTurf, 71,594)
Potential owner: Stephens Family (reported net worth $4 billion)
Notes: Birmingham has a pretty strong candidacy. Having ditched the 5,000-seater BBVA Field for Legion Field, which sits 2.4 miles away, they’ve tapped into the city’s soccer history. Legion Field hosted portions of both the men’s and women’s tournaments at the 1996 Olympics, including a 3-1 U.S. loss to Argentina that saw 83,183 pack the house. The Harbert family seemed like strong ownership contenders, but since the death of matriarch Marguerite Harbert in 2015, it’s unclear where the wealth in the family is concentrated, so the Stephens seem like a better candidate. The only real knock that I can think of is that we really want to avoid having clubs play on turf, so I’d say they’re on the bubble of our platonic ideal USL Prem.
Candidate: Charleston Battery
Location (Metro population): Charleston, S.C. (713,000)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Johnson Hagood Stadium (Grass, ~14,700)
Potential owner: Anita Zucker (reported net worth $3 billion)
Notes: Charleston’s candidacy isn’t looking great. Already disadvantaged due to its undersized metro population, a move across the Cooper River to Johnson Hagood Stadium is cutting it close in terms of capacity. The stadium, home to The Citadel’s football team, used to seat 21,000, before 9,300 seats on the eastern grandstand were torn down in 2017 to deal with lead paint that had been used in their construction. Renovation plans include adding 3,000 seats back in, which could hit 15,000 if they bumped it to 3,300, but throw in a required sale by HCFC, LLC (led by content-creation platform founder Rob Salvatore) to chemical magnate Anita Zucker, and you’ll see there’s a lot of ifs and ands in this proposal.
Candidate: Charlotte Independence
Location (Metro population): Charlotte, N.C. (2,569, 213)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Jerry Richardson Stadium (Turf, 15,314)
Potential owner: James Goodnight (reported net worth $9.1 billion)
Notes: Charlotte ticks a lot of the boxes. A move from the Sportsplex at Matthews to UNC-Charlotte’s Jerry Richardson stadium meets capacity requirements, but puts them on to the dreaded turf. Regrettably, nearby American Legion Memorial Stadium only seats 10,500, despite a grass playing surface. With a sizeable metro population (sixth-largest in the USL Championship) and a possible owner in software billionaire James Goodnight, you’ve got some options here. The biggest problem likely lies in direct competition for market share against a much better-funded MLS Charlotte side due to join the league in 2021.
Candidate: Hartford Athletic
Location (Metro population): Hartford, Conn. (1,214,295)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Pratt & Whitney Stadium (Grass, 38,066)
Potential owner: Ray Dalio (reported net worth $18.4 billion)
Notes: Okay, I cheated a bit here, having to relocate Hartford to Pratt & Whitney Stadium, which is technically in East Hartford, Conn. I don’t know enough about the area to know if there’s some kind of massive beef between the two cities, but the club has history there, having played seven games in 2019 while Dillon Stadium underwent renovations. If the group of local businessmen that currently own the club manage to attract Dalio to the table, we’re on to something.
Candidate: Indy Eleven
Location (Metro population): Indianapolis, Ind. (2,048,703)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Lucas Oil Stadium (Turf, 62,421)
Potential owner: Jim Irsay (reported net worth of $3 billion)
Notes: Indy Eleven are a club that are SO CLOSE to being an ideal candidate – if it weren’t for Lucas Oil Stadium’s turf playing surface. Still, there’s a lot to like in this bid. I’m not going to lie, I have no idea what current owner and founder Ersal Ozdemir is worth, but it seems like there might be cause for concern. A sale to Irsay, who also owns the NFL Indianapolis (nee Baltimore) Colts, seems likely to keep the franchise there, rather than make a half-mile move to 14,230 capacity Victory Field where the AAA Indianapolis Indians play and expand from there.
Candidate: Louisville City FC
Location (Metro population): Louisville, Ky. (1,297,310)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Lynn Family Stadium (Grass, 14,000, possibly expandable to 20,000)
Potential owner: Wayne Hughes (reported net worth $2.8 billion)
Notes: I’m stretching things a bit here. Lynn Family stadium is currently listed as having 11,700 capacity that’s expandable to 14,000, but they’ve said that the ground could hold as many as 20,000 with additional construction, which might be enough to grant them a temporary waiver from USSF. If the stadium is a no-go, then there’s always Cardinal Stadium, home to the University of Louisville’s football team, which seats 65,000 but is turf. Either way, it seems like a sale to someone like Public Storage founder Wayne Hughes will be necessary to ensure the club has enough capital.
Candidate: Memphis 901 FC
Location (Metro population): Memphis, Tenn. (1,348,260)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Liberty Bowl Stadium (Turf, 58,325)
Potential owner: Fred Smith (reported net worth $3 billion)
Notes: Unfortunately for Memphis, AutoZone Park’s 10,000 seats won’t cut it at the D1 level. With its urban location, it would likely prove tough to renovate, as well. Liberty Bowl Stadium more than meets the need, but will involve the use of the dreaded turf. As far as an owner goes, FedEx founder Fred Smith seems like a good local option.
Candidate: Miami FC, “The”
Location (Metro population): Miami, Fla. (6,158,824)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Riccardo Silva Stadium (FieldTurf, 20,000)
Potential owner: Riccardo Silva (reported net worth $1 billion)
Notes: Well, well, well, Silva might get his wish for top-flight soccer, after all. He’s got the money, he’s got the metro, and his ground has the capacity. There is the nagging issue of the turf, though. Hard Rock Stadium might present a solution, including a capacity of 64,767 and a grass playing surface. It is worth noting, however, that this is the first profile where I didn’t have to find a new potential owner for a club.
Candidate: North Carolina FC
Location (Metro population): Durham, N.C. (1,214,516 in The Triangle)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Carter-Finley Stadium (Grass/Turf, 57,583)
Potential owner: Steve Malik (precise net worth unknown) / Dennis Gillings (reported net worth of $1.7 billion)
Notes: We have our first “relocation” in North Carolina FC, who were forced to trade Cary’s 10,000-seat WakeMed Soccer Park for Carter-Finley Stadium in Durham, home of the NC State Wolfpack and 57,583 of their closest friends. The move is a whopping 3.1 miles, thanks to the close-knit hub that exists between Cary, Durham and Raleigh. Carter-Finley might be my favorite of the stadium moves in this exercise. The field is grass, but the sidelines are artificial turf. Weird, right? Either way, it was good enough for Juventus to play a friendly against Chivas de Guadalajara there in 2011. Maybe the move would be pushed for by new owner and medical magnate Dennis Gillings, whose British roots might inspire him to get involved in the Beautiful Game. Straight up, though, I couldn’t find a net worth for current owner Steve Malik, though he did sell his company MedFusion for $91 million in 2010, then bought it back for an undisclosed amount and sold it again for $43 million last November. I don’t know if Malik has the juice to meet D1 requirements, but I suspect he’s close.
Candidate: Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC
Location (Metro population): Pittsburgh, Penn. (2,362,453)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Heinz Field (Grass, 64,450)
Potential owner: Henry Hillman (reported net worth $2.5 billion)
Notes: I don’t know a ton about the Riverhounds, but this move in particular feels like depriving a pretty blue-collar club from its roots. Highmark Stadium is a no-go from a seating perspective, but the Steelers’ home stadium at Heinz Field would more than meet the requirements and have a grass surface that was large enough to be sanctioned for a FIFA friendly between the U.S. WNT and Costa Rica in 2015. As for an owner, Tuffy Shallenberger (first ballot owner name HOF) doesn’t seem to fit the USSF bill, but legendary Pittsburgh industrialist Henry Hillman might. I’m sure you’re asking, why not the Rooney Family, if they’ll play at Heinz Field? I’ll tell you: I honestly can’t seem to pin down a value for the family. The Steelers are valued at a little over a billion and rumors persist that Dan Rooney is worth $500 million, but I’m not sure. I guess the Rooneys would work too, but it’s a definite departure from an owner in Shallenberger who was described by one journalist as a guy who “wears boots, jeans, a sweater and a trucker hat.”
Candidate: Saint Louis FC
Location (Metro population): St. Louis, Mo. (2,807,338)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Busch Stadium (Grass, 45,494)
Potential owner: William DeWitt Jr. (reported net worth $4 billion)
Notes: Saint Louis has some weirdness in making the jump to D1. Current CEO Jim Kavanaugh is an owner of the MLS side that will begin play in 2022. The club’s current ground at West Community Stadium isn’t big enough, but perhaps a timely sale to Cardinals owner William DeWitt Jr. could see the club playing games at Busch Stadium, which has a well established history of hosting other sports like hockey, college football and soccer (most recently a U.S. WNT friendly against New Zealand in 2019). The competition with another MLS franchise wouldn’t be ideal, like Charlotte, but with a big enough population and cross marketing from the Cardinals, maybe there’s a winner here. Wacko idea: If Busch doesn’t pan out, send them to The Dome. Sure, it’s a 60k turf closed-in stadium, but we can go for that retro NASL feel and pay homage to our nation’s soccer history.
Candidate: Tampa Bay Rowdies
Location (Metro population): Tampa, Fla. (3,068,511)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Raymond James Stadium (Grass, 65,518)
Potential owner: Edward DeBartolo Jr. (reported net worth $3 billion)
Notes: This one makes me sad. Despite having never been there, I see Al Lang Stadium as an iconic part of the Rowdies experience. Current owner Bill Edwards proposed an expansion to 18,000 seats in 2016, but the move seems to have stalled out. Frustrated with the city’s lack of action, Edwards sells to one-time San Francisco 49ers owner Edward DeBartolo Jr., who uses his old NFL connections to secure a cushy lease at the home of the Buccaneers in Ray Jay, the site of a 3-1 thrashing of Antigua and Barbuda during the United States’ 2014 World Cup Qualifying campaign.
Breather. Hey, we finished the Eastern Conference teams. Why are you still reading this? Why am I still writing it? Time is a meaningless construct in 2020 my friends, we are adrift in the void, fueled only by brief flashes of what once was and what may yet still be.
Candidate: Austin Bold FC
Location (Metro population): Austin, Texas (2,168,316)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Darrel K Royal – Texas Memorial Stadium (FieldTurf, 95,594)
Potential owner: Michael Dell (reported net worth of $32.3 billion)
Notes: Anthony Precourt’s Austin FC has some unexpected competition and it comes in the form of tech magnate Michael Dell. Dell, were he to buy the club, would be one of the richest owners on our list and could flash his cash in the new first division. Would he have enough to convince Darrel K Royal – Texas Memorial Stadium (I’m not kidding, that’s its actual name) to go back to a grass surface, like it did from ’96-’08? That’s between Dell and nearly 100,000 UT football fans, but everything can be had for the right price.
Candidate: Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC
Location (Metro population): Colorado Springs, Colo. (738,939)
Time zone: Mountain
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Falcon Stadium (FieldTurf, 46,692)
Potential owner: Charles Ergen (reported net worth $10.8 billion)
Notes: Welcome to Colorado Springs. We have hurdles. For the first time in 12 candidates, we’re back below the desired 1 million metro population mark. Colorado Springs actually plans to build a $35 million, 8,000 seat venue downtown that will be perfect for soccer, but in our timeline that’s 7,000 seats short. Enter Falcon Stadium, home of the Air Force Academy Falcons football team. Seems perfect except for the turf, right? Well, the tricky thing is that Falcon Stadium is technically on an active military base and is (I believe) government property. Challenges to getting in and out of the ground aside, the military tends to have a pretty grim view of government property being used by for-profit enterprises. Maybe Charles Ergen, founder and chairman of Dish Network, would be able to grease the right wheels, but you can go ahead and throw this into the “doubtful” category. It’s a shame, too. 6,035 feet of elevation is one hell of a home-field advantage.
Candidate: El Paso Locomotive FC
Location: El Paso, Texas
Time zone: Mountain
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Sun Bowl (FieldTurf, 51,500)
Potential owner: Paul Foster (reported net worth $1.7 billion)
Notes: God bless Texas. When compiling this list, I found so many of the theoretical stadium replacements were nearly serviceable by high school football fields. That’s insane, right? Anyway, Locomotive don’t have to settle for one of those, they’ve got the Sun Bowl, which had its capacity reduced in 2001 to a paltry 51,500 (from 52,000) specifically to accommodate soccer. Sure, it’s a turf surface, but what does new owner Paul Foster (who is only the 1,477th wealthiest man in the world, per Forbes) care, he’s got a team in a top league. Side note: Did you know that the Sun Bowl college football game is officially, through sponsorship, the Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl? Why is it not the Frosted Flakes Sun Bowl? Why is the cereal mascot the promotional name of the football game? What are you doing, Kellogg’s?
Candidate: Las Vegas Lights FC
Location: Las Vegas, Nev. (2,227,053)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Allegiant Stadium (Grass, 61,000)
Potential owner: Sheldon Adelson (reported net worth $37.7 billion)
Notes: Sin City. You had to know that the club that once signed Freddy Adu because “why not” was going to go all out in our flashy hypothetical proposal. Thanks to my narrative control of this whole thing, they have. Adelson is the second-richest owner in the league and has decided to do everything first class. That includes using the new Raiders stadium in nearby unincorporated Paradise, Nevada, and spending boatloads on high profile transfers. Zlatan is coming back to the U.S., confirmed.
Candidate: New Mexico United
Location: Albuquerque, N.M.
Time zone: Mountain
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Isotopes Park – officially Rio Grande Credit Union Field at Isotopes Park (Grass, 13,500 – 15,000 with expansion)
Potential owner: Maloof Family (reported net worth $1 billion)
Notes: New Mexico from its inception went deep on the community vibe, and I’ve tried to replicate that in this bid. The home field of Rio Grande Cr---I’m not typing out the whole thing—Isotopes Park falls just within the expansion rules we set to make it to 15,000 (weird, right?) and they’ve found a great local ownership group in the Lebanese-American Maloof (formerly Maalouf) family from Las Vegas. The only thing to worry about would be the metro population, but overall, this could be one of the gems of USL Prem.
Candidate: Oklahoma City Energy FC
Location: Oklahoma City, Okla. (1,396,445)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark (Grass, 13,066)
Potential owner: Harold Hamm (reported net worth $14.2 billion)
Notes: There’s a bright golden haze on the meadow and it says it’s time to change stadiums and owners to make it to D1. A sale to oil magnate Harold Hamm would give the club the finances it needs, but Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark (home of the OKC Dodgers) actually falls outside of the boundary of what would meet capacity if 1,500 seats were added. Could the club pull off a move to Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium in Norman, Oklahoma – home of the Oklahoma Sooners? Maybe, but at 20 miles, this would be a reach.
Candidate: Orange County SC
Location: Irvine, Calif. (3,176, 000 in Orange County)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Angels Stadium of Anaheim (Grass, 43,250)
Potential owner: Arte Moreno (reported net worth $3.3 billion)
Notes: You’ll never convince me that Rangers didn’t choose to partner with Orange County based primarily on its name. Either way, a sale to MLB Angels owner Arte Moreno produces a fruitful partnership, with the owner choosing to play his newest club out of the existing Angels stadium in OC. Another baseball conversion, sure, but with a metro population of over 3 million and the closest thing this hypothetical league has to an LA market, who’s complaining?
Candidate: Phoenix Rising FC
Location: Phoenix, Ariz. (4,857,962)
Time zone: Arizona
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): State Farm Stadium (Grass, 63,400)
Potential owner: Ernest Garcia II (reported net worth $5.7 billion)
Notes: We’re keeping it local with new owner and used car guru Ernest Garcia II. His dad owned a liquor store and he dropped out of college, which is making me feel amazing about my life choices right now. Casino Arizona Field is great, but State Farm Stadium is a grass surface that hosted the 2019 Gold Cup semifinal, so it’s a clear winner. Throw in Phoenix’s massive metro population and this one looks like a lock.
Candidate: Reno 1868 FC
Location: Reno, Nev. (425,417)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Mackay Stadium (FieldTurf, 30,000)
Potential owner: Nancy Walton Laurie (reported net worth $7.1 billion)
Notes: The Biggest Little City on Earth has some serious barriers to overcome, thanks to its low metro population. A sale to Walmart heiress Nancy Walton Laurie and 1.6 mile-move to Mackay Stadium to split space with the University of Nevada, Reno makes this bid competitive, but the turf surface is another knock against it.
Candidate: Rio Grande Valley FC
Location: Edinburg, Texas (900,304)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): McAllen Memorial Stadium (FieldTurf, 13,500 – 15,000 with expansion)
Potential owner: Alice Louise Walton (reported net worth $45 billion)
Notes: Yes, I have a second straight Walmart heiress on the list. She was the first thing that popped up when I googled “McAllen Texas richest people.” The family rivalry has spurred Walton to buy a club as well, moving them 10 miles to McAllen Memorial Stadium which, as I alluded to earlier, is a straight up high school football stadium with a full color scoreboard. Toss in an additional 1,500 seats and you’ve met the minimum, despite the turf playing surface.
Candidate: San Antonio FC
Location: San Antonio, Texas (2,550,960)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Alamodome (FieldTurf, 64,000)
Potential owner: Red McCombs (reported net worth $1.6 billion)
Notes: I wanted to keep SAFC in the Spurs family, since the franchise is valued at $1.8 billion. That said, I didn’t let the Rooneys own the Riverhounds based on the Steelers’ value and it felt wrong to change the rules, so bring on Clear Channel co-founder Red McCombs. Toyota Field isn’t viable in the first division, but for the Alamodome, which was built in 1993 in hopes of attracting an NFL franchise (and never did), San Antonio can finally claim having *a* national football league team in its town (contingent on your definition of football). Now if only we could do something about that turf…
Candidate: San Diego Loyal SC
Location: San Diego, Calif. (3,317,749)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): SDCCU Stadium (formerly Qualcomm) (Grass, 70,561)
Potential owner: Phil Mickelson (reported net worth $91 million)
Notes: Yes, golf’s Phil Mickelson. The existing ownership group didn’t seem to have the wherewithal to meet requirements, and Phil seemed to slot right in. As an athlete himself, he might be interesting in the new challenges of a top flight soccer team. Toss in a move to the former home of the chargers and you might have a basis for tremendous community support.
Candidate: FC Tulsa
Location: Tulsa, Okla. (991,561)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Skelly Field at H.A. Chapman Stadium (FieldTurf, 30,000)
Potential owner: George Kaiser ($10 billion)
Notes: I’m a fan of FC Tulsa’s rebrand, but if they want to make the first division, more changes are necessary. A sale to Tulsa native and one of the 100 richest men in the world George Kaiser means that funding is guaranteed. A move to Chapman Stadium would provide the necessary seats, despite the turf field. While the undersize population might be an issue at first glance, it’s hard to imagine U.S. Soccer not granting a waiver over a less than a 10k miss from the mark.
And that’s it! You made it. Those are all of the independent/hybrid affiliates in the USL Championship, which means that it’s time for our…
VERDICT: As an expert who has studied this issue for almost an entire day now, I am prepared to pronounce which USL Championships could be most ‘ready” for a jump to the USL Prem. A reminder that of the 27 clubs surveyed, 0 of them met our ideal criteria (proper ownership $, metro population, 15,000+ stadium with grass field).
Two of them, however, met almost all of those criteria: Indy Eleven and Miami FC. Those two clubs may use up two of our three available turf fields right from the outset, but the other factors they hit (particularly Silva’s ownership of Miami) makes them difficult, if not impossible to ignore for the top flight.
But who fill in the rest of the slots? Meet the entire 14-team USL Premier League:
Hartford Athletic
Indy Eleven
Louisville City FC
Miami FC
North Carolina FC
Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC
Tampa Bay Rowdies
Saint Louis FC
San Antonio FC
New Mexico United
Phoenix Rising FC
Las Vegas Lights FC
Orange County SC
San Diego Loyal SC
Now, I shall provide my expert rationale for each club’s inclusion/exclusion, which can be roughly broken down into four categories.
Firm “yes”
Hartford Athletic: It’s a good market size with a solid stadium. With a decent investor and good community support, you’ve got potential here.
Indy Eleven: The turf at Lucas Oil Stadium is no reason to turn down a 62,421 venue and a metro population of over 2 million.
Louisville City FC: Why doesn’t the 2017 & 2018 USL Cup champion deserve a crack at the top flight? They have the market size, and with a bit of expansion have the stadium at their own SSS. LCFC, you’re in.
Miami FC, “The”: Our other blue-chip recruit on the basis of ownership value, market size and stadium capacity. Yes, that field is turf, but how could you snub Silva’s chance to claim victory as the first division 1 club soccer team to play in Miami?
Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC: Pittsburgh sacrificed a lot to be here (according to my arbitrary calculations). Their market size and the potential boon of soccer at Heinz Field is an important inclusion to the league.
Saint Louis FC: Willie hears your “Busch League” jokes, Willie don’t care. A huge market size, combined with the absence of an NFL franchise creates opportunity. Competition with the MLS side, sure, but St. Louis has serious soccer history and we’re willing to bet it can support two clubs.
Tampa Bay Rowdies: With a huge population and a massive stadium waiting nearby, Tampa Bay seems like too good of an opportunity to pass up for the USL Prem.
Las Vegas Lights FC: Ostentatious, massive and well-financed, Las Vegas Lights FC is everything that the USL Premier League would need to assert that it didn’t intend to play second fiddle to MLS. Players will need to be kept on a short leash, but this is a hard market to pass up on.
Phoenix Rising FC: Huge population, big grass field available nearby and a solid history of success in recent years. No brainer.
San Diego Loyal SC: New club? Yes, massive population in a market that recently lost an absolutely huge sports presence? Also yes. This could be the USL Prem’s Seattle.
Cautious “yes”
New Mexico United: You have to take a chance on New Mexico United. The club set the league on fire with its social media presence and its weight in the community when it entered the league last season. The market may be slightly under USSF’s desired 1 million, but fervent support (and the ability to continue to use Isotopes Park) shouldn’t be discounted.
North Carolina FC: Carter-Finley’s mixed grass/turf surface is a barrier, to be sure, but the 57,000+ seats it offers (and being enough to offset other fully-turf offerings) is enough to put it in the black.
Orange County SC: It’s a top-tier club playing in a MLB stadium. I know it seems unlikely that USSF would approve something like that, but believe me when I say “it could happen.” Orange County is a massive market and California likely needs two clubs in the top flight.
San Antonio FC: Our third and only voluntary inclusion to the turf fields in the first division, we’re counting on San Antonio’s size and massive potential stadium to see it through.
Cautious “no”
Birmingham Legion FC: The town has solid soccer history and a huge potential venue, but the turf playing surface puts it on the outside looking in.
Memphis 901 FC: Like Birmingham, not much to dislike here outside of the turf playing surface at the larger playing venue.
Austin Bold FC: See the other two above.
FC Tulsa: Everything’s just a little bit off with this one. Market’s slightly too small, stadium has turf. Just not enough to put it over the top.
Firm “no”
Charleston Battery: Small metro and a small potential new stadium? It’s tough to say yes to the risk.
Charlotte Independence: A small new stadium and the possibility of having to compete with an organization that just paid over $300 million to join MLS means it’s best for this club to remain in the USL Championship.
Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC: When a club’s best chance to meet a capacity requirement is to host games at a venue controlled by the military, that doesn’t speak well to a club’s chances.
El Paso Locomotive FC: An undersized market and a turf field that meets capacity requirements is the death knell for this one.
Oklahoma City Energy FC: Having to expand a baseball field to meet requirements is a bad start. Having to potentially play 20 miles away from your main market is even worse.
Reno 1868 FC: Population nearly a half-million short of the federation’s requirements AND a turf field at the hypothetical new stadium makes impossible to say yes to this bid.
Rio Grande Valley FC: All the seat expansions in the world can’t hide the fact that McAllen Memorial Stadium is a high school stadium through and through.
Here’s who’s left in the 11-team Championship:
Birmingham Legion FC
Charleston Battery
Charlotte Independence
Memphis 901 FC
Austin Bold FC
Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC
El Paso Locomotive FC
Oklahoma City Energy FC
Reno 1868 FC
Rio Grande Valley FC
FC Tulsa
With MLS folding the six affiliates it has in USL League One, the league is a little bit thin (especially considering USSF’s requirements for 8 teams for lower level leagues), but seems definitely able to expand up to the necessary numbers with Edwards’ allusions to five new additions this year:
Chattanooga Red Wolves SC
Forward Madison FC
Greenville Triumph SC
Union Omaha
Richmond Kickers
South Georgia Tormenta
FC Tucson
Format of Assorted Leagues – This (like everything in this post) is pure conjecture on my part, but here are my thoughts on how these leagues might function in a first year while waiting for additional expansion.
USL Premier – We’ll steal from the 12-team Scottish Premiership. Each club plays the other 11 clubs 3 times, with either one or two home matches against each side. When each club has played 33 matches, the top six and bottom six separate, with every club playing an additional five matches (against each other team in its group). The top club wins the league. The bottom club is automatically relegated. The second-bottom club will enter a two-legged playoff against someone (see below) from the championship playoffs.
USL Championship -- 11 clubs is a challenge to schedule for. How about every club plays everyone else three times (either one or two home matches against each side)? Top four clubs make the playoffs, which are decided by two-legged playoffs. The winner automatically goes up. I need feedback on the second part – is it better to have the runner-up from the playoffs face the second-bottom club from the Premiership, or should the winner of the third-place match-up get the chance to face them to keep drama going in both playoff series? As for relegation, we can clearly only send down the last place club while the third division is so small.
USL League One – While the league is so small, it doesn’t seem reasonable to have the clubs play as many matches as the higher divisions. Each club could play the other six clubs four times – twice at home and twice away – for a very equitable 24-match regular season, which would help restrict costs and still provide a chance to determine a clear winner. Whoever finishes top of the table goes up.
And there you have it, a hypothetical look at how the USL could build a D1 league right now. All it would take is a new stadium for almost the entire league and new owners for all but one of the 27 clubs, who wouldn’t feel that their property would be massively devalued if they got relegated.
Well that’s our show. I’m curious to see what you think of all of this, especially anything that you think I may have overlooked (I’m sure there’s plenty). Anyway, I hope you’re all staying safe and well.
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Rise and Fall Part 9

Part 8 (has access to parts 1-7 in it)
For some reason it would not post the last day or so.
It is early 2017. I have been carrying on my usual playing 10-20 hours a week to survive. Still lethargic is best term I suppose. I just dont get excited to play anymore. I consider getting a job to remind me how shitty working is so it gives me a kick in the teeth to play poker. Then it dawns on me, I hate playing poker now.
Poker has been tainted. Everything bad that happened to me I can associate with poker. The rise and fall was poker (the fall part). The oxycontin started as a performance enhancer to log more hours. Everything I consider to be wrong in my life I trace back to poker essentially, even if just a butterfly affect reason that had I done something else I wouldnt be here.
Hating poker is not the greatest realization considering its my only means to income outside of grunt labor. I seek a job in a couple places to no avail which was fine, I didnt wanna do that either.
Several months earlier I had started playing on SWC (bitcoin site) and became familiarized with bitcoin. Thought nothing of it, it was just the currency I was winning or losing. I dont read a thing about it, I learn nothing of it. I wasnt playing a ton or even big stakes, my intention for playing online was to just stay sharp in case it ever comes back full fledge. I have 5-6 btc on this site at the most (2-3k) and I flush it playing plo and big o not thinking much of it.
Back to 2017. Its March/April~ of 2017. I am playing cards one night dicking around probably had a couple drinks and was needling the usuals etc. A guy I do not know is in the game. Looks Russian. I bet he interfered in our election... fucking commies. I dont remember how I got to talking to him but crypto had been brought up. I talk about SWC. Tell him I had a few btc but not anymore. The only other thing I remember well from the conversation was bitching about going from an iphone4 (yes I had an iphone4 from 2010-17, the same one. It barely worked. Many oxycontins snorted off the back of that phone, texts dating back to when I got it in 2010) to the 6 or 7 or wtfever I have now, which is bigger and its harder to text and drive. He just responds by saying “first world problems are the worst”. Amen brother, those Africans and Venezuelans have no clue of our struggle.
I end up talking to him a bit and it turns out he mines crypto. Has a website that sells mining equipment. He has a hell of a back story too. I tell him I am interested in mining. I have about 20k to my name at this time and I realized recently that I dont like playing poker so why not? He eventually tells me not to do it. Regardless we become friends and he is ultimately the most important friend I have ever made. I have made more positive strides mentally since meeting him (mostly work ethic, realizations, reality checks and aspirations) As silly as it sounds, when he told me “first world problems are the worst” it stuck with me. He was saying it as a joke but jokes are funniest when true. He is genuinely the smartest guy I have ever associated with also. If you run into him at a poker table youd think he was a high functioning autist. Then you talk to him and go “ohhh hes just one of those Einstein type geniuses”. His hair is usually a mess, he cuts his own hair for or has his girlfriend do it. He wears cheap clothing usually since it all covers your ass or nipples I suppose. He virtually never instigates conversation with people he doesnt know. He is really deliberate with his actions. Talks really calmly and knows exactly what he is saying. He is just on the same level at all times it seems.
Meeting him has definitely changed my life for the better. We become friends pretty quickly. I know I went on a downer after meeting him because I couldnt afford to buy mining stuff and remember wanting to (again, he told me not to do it eventually anyways).
Which will lead me to another good friend to have. Between 2015 and this point in 2017 I have shot myself in the foot not logging hours a couple times. A friend has bailed me out with a loan or short term stake a few times. He is a well off restaurant owner who loves poker more than just about anything not related to him. Every time I see him we talk about hands he played and he just eats it up, has photographic memory and never butchers a hand history which is nice. He is as good hearted of a guy as I have ever met. (Sorry if this is getting long winded giving praise to people close to me, I intend on sharing with a few people and would like them to know what they mean to me as corny as that is because I suck at doing it in real life. Plus it is kinda gay to get mushy sounding in real life, but I digress. Theyve heard virtually none of the content of this whole thread either, a ton of this stuff I have never shared) In fact he is too kind hearted. He has helped people who wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire, and people have burned him on many occasions. My only complaint about this person is he never kicked my ass and told me to log more hours or fuck off. I needed it. If I just logged hours I wouldnt need the help. Its as simple as that. I have no leaks other than the unwillingness to play (leaks as in drugs/pit games/strippers/wtf ever else) and it has hindered me immensely over the these last couple years. (Ok I do have one embarrassing leak that has been fixed for a year and change, mobile games... I have spent like 30,000$ on mobile games between late 2016 and late 2018, Lords Mobile specifically clocked me for 20k. This definitely hindered my ability to build a roll and got me into a few jams. When youre not logging hours playing youre sitting around gaming and these games arent cheap obviously)
It is around May now and my friend who messes with crypto tells me that Bitcoin is going to 10,000$. Its like 800$ at the time iirc. I own a couple from Ignition cashouts. I kind of trust him. I cant argue him on it as I have literally no mental fortitude on the subject, but I essentially shrug it off. I start watching the price on poloniex and am watching prices jump like crazy. Light bulb in head! I can buy the dips sell the peaks and have more BTC! Lets load the 2.5btc I have onto poloniex! Sell peak but it keeps climbing... “FUCK! gotta get it back before it goes to 10k! Whew. Still have 2.45 BTC. FUCK! Its dropping! Get it out before it goes to zero!”
Yea I turned that 2.5 BTC into .4 BTC. No joke. I think I ended up throwing it onto SWC and losing it once it was almost gone. I honestly forget. I had nothing when it finally hit 20k other than some shit alts worth about 800$ at most (worth 35$ now but they still reside in my locked poloniex account, maybe I will give poloniex my ID if they ever become worth more than 1k)
So I am now annoyed I didnt turn every free dollar I had into BTC. I didnt trust the guy enough and to be fair I would have been using the money I play with. Had I met the guy a year earlier (know what I know of him now) I would probably have just locked it all up and sat around waiting.
I never really get my act together in 2017. I continuously log just enough hours to get by. I just dont care. I just want a way out of this. I catch myself saying “I hate playing poker” and sometime around the end of 17 or early 2018 I start trying to censor myself and quit saying that. Saying it will only make it fester deeper. I have to retrain myself to love poker. I remember the days of playing 18-24 hours straight because I love playing. I love watching for everything I can find to get an edge. I love a situation to present itself where I can step out of line. But now I just sit down and count the minutes before I can tell myself “way to go! You put in an 8 hour shift lets pack it in!” I leave good games often times. I celebrate when games break. This is where I am mentally while I play. I cant break out of it.
Late in 2017 a close friend of mine passes away. Will call him J. He was the guy who gave me a place to stay after the shutdown in Joplin. I was still doing oxy and he never once touched the stuff knowing what has happened to me. He doesnt judge me, he is somewhat of an enabler I suppose. He just drinks does shitty coke sometimes and has a script of adderol and xanax. Literally never once does he do any with me (ive warned him xanax and opiates will kill you if you mix, which is likely part of the reason he never did it) He was a marginal poker player (relative to modern game, he was just good enough to beat the rake live but he had too many pit leaks) and took great pride in being my friend (I was the slayer in the area for years leading up to this, anyone considered the best in their area can relate, you just have the respect of the local poker community). One of my earlier live poker memories involved him. I am like 18 or 19 playing a 1-2 game at a small casino and he was there with a friend. They were the good players in the game at the time. They were having a few drinks eating nice food and laughing having a good time. I remember thinking that I want this lifestyle. Care free gambling fast paced lifestyle. I had told him this story years later and he just ate it up, constantly tried to get me to rebound, but as I have stated many many times in the last few of these I have basically waved my white flag and accepted the result of my fall.
Anyhow after living with him we always talk every few months at minimal and have something to eat when we see each other at the casino. He was somewhat disingenuous sounding he was so nice and honestly it got to a point it started rubbing me the wrong way. I still talk to him of course but less frequently. In December of 2017 I get a phone call from my friend who owns the restaurant and he is distraught. He has been at the hospital and J has passed away. The back story on this is he had gotten a phone call from old friend who was getting out of prison in Arizona with no where to go (a female). J being as nice a guy as he is drives the 20+ hours to get her and gives her a place to stay. Well shes a junky and actually convinces J to do opiates/heroin. He overdoses and dies. I hadnt talked to him in a few months. I regret it. Had I known I would have beaten him senseless and got him to quit before things actually get bad.
Going to his funeral hit me up side the head too. The way I started feeling he was disingenuous just got destroyed. I cant fathom as many people showing up to my funeral with as nice of things to say. I wrote something to say but opt out after a few people say everything I had written (except better). I regret not saying them anyways. I think I still have what I wrote tucked away with the card and his money clip that made its way to me. I stumbled across his casino players card in a box one day and it resides in my wallet ever since. This was the first close friend that has passed away in my life, knock on wood. It woke me up a bit and caused a lot of self reflection because I felt I had let him down. I lived a few miles from him and didnt drop in to see him, didnt stay in contact as well as I should have. All because I felt he was disingenuously nice when he was actually just nice, which is actually because I am a cynical hermit who hates social life these days. That was the real reason I didnt stay closer. Him being too nice was just my excuse to blow him off essentially.
Only other thing I can add is that chick he helped out didnt even go to his funeral and on top of that had tried to take his truck and clean his house out. Junkies are the worst. I was a junky but I proudly say I never robbed anyone or cost anyone anything other than emotional distress, which isnt much of a brag obviously.
2018 starts and I have been decreasing my methadone every week for about 3-4 months now. I am on a low dose. Makes sleeping at night hard (get restless legs and sneezy). So I am having a few drinks any time I am at the casino playing (still just two days a week for the most part) to help get through those late night sessions when its worn off and I feel crummy. I get down to 15mg then 10mg and in March of 2018 I get asked if I wanna work for a week with my crypto friend. His friend is setting up a farm with 500 miners and needs help. I agree. The pay is in excess of the work (in my opinion) at 3k and I have no expenses, but I dont argue obviously. Before we leave town I have to pick up my week of methadone (at 4mg now) and so I do that. I never take any of them, I have the box still. Never opened it. They remain at my apartment as a reminder, the box carrying the 6 doses and a stack of receipts for every 75$ week that I kept in the box, several years worth, at least 9-10k worth of receipts, and that shits CHEAP compared to oxy. So I am finally off of opiates. I take kratom still but its essentially non addictive in comparison. Ill cede that I am reliant on kratom but if it disappeared tomorrow I wouldnt panic, I would be fine.
So I fly to Denver with my friend and meet his friends half brother who was instructed to rent a box truck and the three of us were to drive from Denver to Washington carrying like half a million dollars worth of hardware. Its early March, the roads arent exactly great. Half brother of his friend rents a truck with no middle seat though. Its absolutely miserable. Whoever sat middle was sitting like a fem boy legs closed and knees up high from the drive shaft hump. It was un fucking real how uncomfortable the middle was. So like I stated the roads were not great, we drove on ice for 5-6 hours straight (while my crypto friend did about 30 minutes of it before I decided I value my life and banned him from driving, he was literally doing over 70 on this ice sheet when I checked the gauge. I forget what he said, I will fail to make it sound as good but he said that he is protected and can not die, if we wreck he wont get hurt because of some universe stipulation that protects him. He said we would get hurt but he wouldnt. *** Ok here is what he said.
“quantum immortality. if i die in this universe, my conciousness will shift to others where i am still alive”
He just couldnt assure us ours would.
I end up driving like 18 of the 24 (one shot) hours it took as letting crypto friend drive was out. We make it set up a farm over a couple days then we go to Vegas. Not only do we go to Vegas but we fly a private jet. Not only do we take a private jet but his buddy has all four of us our own room at the Bellagio for 5-6 days. I remember having a 4500$ win at Bellagios 500$ cap 2-5 game... ran pretty salty. I only remember one hand worth bringing up, but I closed action and called 400$ pre with 67o with 3 others all in. Just flop 77X and send me the money. (Was drinking, gamble gamble). I cold called that also, some fish had opened massive and a 300$ stack just ripped a 400$ stack rejammed and I had called out of bb knowing fish will call off his 400~. This is actually a leak I have in poker. I will go over it because it has history.
Dating back to online my biggest leak was playing vs short stacks. Everyones biggest leak obv (6m setting). There were a few min buyers on Carbon and I got to the point I put them in pre every time they opened my bb from button, so long as they opened 75%+ from button or close to it. This has carried with me live, if I can gamble 3-4 ways (4 specifically) I will basically do it any time its 100bb~ or less with about 40% of hands if I can close action safely. I am a bit of a degenerate in this sense. I will flip for 1k if I have 10k to my name. It mostly came as a way to loosen up tables (the flipping blind preflop) at my local casino with players who give action. I am pretty snug in general but I cant refuse a flip when it presents itself and I cant refuse a fun gamble with short stacks.
I spend the month in Vegas during WSOP and run absurdly bad. Lose every big pot I play it seems. Switch to PLO the last half of the month and go a week straight without tripling my buy in up at any point. Just insane. Looking back I play rather poorly in PLO. I have been spoiled with my PLO games back home (which have been dead for about a year) and could get away with playing 50% of hands and no one ever bet big draws or anything not the nuts basically. I didnt adjust at all is what the issue was. Was just a frustrating month.
So I return and take a stake from a friend. I barely play still. Same ole same ole.
The last thing I will cover for this section is an incident late in 2018. One of the girls who is the floor at my local casino takes kratom also, we talk about it a fair amount. She has some 10mg percocets (mini oxycontins essentially) she gives me two of them. I havent had one in several years. I have been off methadone for 6-8 months at the time. I am eager to feel what I felt all those years ago, having no tolerance. So I take them home even though I know I shouldnt.
I get home and take both of them. What transpires is almost depressing. It frustrates me to no end that I realized that I have no desire for these. It affirms that all the money I flushed wasnt about the high, it was about the not withdrawing. I basically stated this in an earlier post but this is the event that I learned this from. I dont even enjoy it. I just sink knowing that I gave my life away for these. I have never recovered thanks to pain killers. Never once after 2011 have I ever looked in the mirror and said “finally, I have finally recovered what I fucked off”.
I am going to finish this thread off on the next post most likely. It will likely be long and take me a while to compose as it will cover my current year, and put a bow on it. The story basically climaxes a couple posts back, these surely have slowly lost their luster but I will finish them anyways. Nothing exciting about hearing about a guy who can beat games but wont sit in the chair to do it. Its a bit more upbeat in 2019 though andd I feel my future is bright and redemption nears though. I dont think I would have written these if not for a change of mentality recently, so look forward to a positive summary next post.
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Every single movie mentioned on CNN's The Movies

(It's a long list so hold on to your butts)
1903
"The Great Train Robbery"
1916
"Intolerance"
1923
"Safety Last!"
1924
"Sherlock Jr."
1925
"The Gold Rush"
"Body and Soul"
1926
"The Son of the Sheik"
"Sparrows"
1927
"IT"
"The Jazz Singer"
"The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog"
1928
"Lights of New York"
"Steamboat Willie"
"The CameraMan"
1929
"The Kiss"
"The Hollywood Revue of 1929"
1930
"A Lady To Love"
"Anna Christie"
"Animal Crackers"
"The Big House"
"The Blue Angel"
"Morocco"
"Bubbles"
"All Quiet on the Western Frontier"
1931
"West of Broadway"
"Dracula"
"Frankenstein"
"Monkey Business"
"Blonde Crazy"
"Laughing Sinners"
"Little Caeser"
"The Public Enemy"
"The Champ"
"Possessed"
"City Lights"
1932
"Grand Hotel"
"The Mummy"
"Horse Feathers"
"Red-Headed Woman"
"Scarface"
"Blonde Venus"
"Red Dust"
1933
"Queen Christina"
"The Invisble Man"
"King Kong"
"Duck Soup"
"Gold Diggers of 1933"
"Footlight Parade"
"42nd Street"
"Baby Face"
"She Done Him Wrong"
"I'm No Angel"
1934
"It Happened One Night"
"Twentieth Century"
"Kid Millions"
"Of Human Bondage"
"Manhattan Melodrama"
1935
"Mutiny on the Bounty"
"The Bride of Frankenstein"
"A Night at the Opera"
"Gold Diggers of 1935"
"Symphony In Black: A Rhapsody of Negro Life"
"The Little Colonel"
"The Devil is a Woman"
"Dangerous"
"The 39 Steps"
"Triumph of the Will"
1936
"San Francisco"
"Swing Time"
"My Man Godfrey"
"Show Boat"
"The Petrified Forest"
1937
"Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs"
"The Awful Truth"
1938
"Bringing Up Baby"
"Love Finds Andy Hardy"
1939
"The Women"
"The Wizard of Oz"
"Stagecoach"
"Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"
"Love Affair"
"Ninotchka"
"Of Mice and Men"
"Only Angels Have Wings"
"Goodbye, Mr. Chips"
"Gunga Din"
"Wuthering Heights"
"Young Mr. Lincoln"
"Gone With the Wind"
1940
"The Philadelphia Story"
"His Girl Friday"
"Rebecca"
"The Great Dictator"
"The Grapes of Wrath"
1941
"The Wolf Man"
"Sullivan's Travels"
"The Lady Eve"
"Suspicion"
"Citizen Kane"
"The Maltese Falcon"
1942
"Casablanca"
"Wake Island"
"The Battle of Midway"
1943
"The Miracle of Morgan's Creek"
"Bataan"
"Air Force"
1944
"Double Indemnity"
"Laura"
"Meet Me in St. Louis"
1945
"The Battle of San Pietro"
"They Were Expendable"
1946
"Notorious"
"The Best Years of Our Lives"
"It's a Wonderful Life"
"The Killers"
"The Big Sleep"
"My Darling Clementine"
1947
"Out of the Past"
1948
"Rope"
"Fort Apache"
1949
"The Third Man"
"Samson and Delilah"
"Conspirator"
"She Wore a Yellow Ribbon"
1950
"The Asphalt Jungle"
"Gun Crazy"
"Sunset Boulevard"
"All About Eve"
"Born Yesterday"
"Rio Grande"
1951
"Quo Vadis"
"An American in Paris"
"The Thing From Another World"
"The Day the Earth Stood Still"
"A Streetcar Named Desire"
"The African Queen"
1952
"Singin' in the Rain"
"High Noon"
1953
"The Hitch-hiker"
"The Robe"
"The Band Wagon"
"From Here to Eternity"
"Roman Holiday"
"Gentleman Prefer Blondes"
"How to Marry a Millionarie"
1954
"A Star is Born"
"Them!"
"Gojira"
"On the Waterfront"
"Rear Window"
"To Cathch a Thief"
"Creature From The Black Lagoon"
1955
"Tarantula!"
"Blackboard Jungle"
"East of Eden"
"Rebel Without a Cause"
"The Seven Year Itch"
1956
"The Ten Commandments"
"Godzilla, King of the Monsters!"
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers"
"Giant"
"The Searchers"
1957
"The Deadly Mantis"
"A Face in the Crowd"
"Sweet Smell of Success"
"The Bridge on the River Kwai"
1958
"I Married a Monster From Outer Space"
"Vertigo"
"Cat On A Hot Tin Roof"
"The Defiant Ones"
1959
"Ben-Hur"
"Some Like It Hot"
"North By Northwest"
"Rio Bravo"
"Pillow Talk"
1960
"Exodus"
"Spartacus"
"The Apartment"
"Psycho"
"The Bellboy"
"The Magnificent Seven"
"One-Eyed Jacks"
"Sergeant Rutledge"
"Breathless"
1961
"West Side Story"
"Breakfast at Tiffany's"
"Splendor in the Grass"
"Lover Come Back"
"The Ladies Man"
"The Errand Boy"
"El Cid"
"The Hustler"
"The Misfits"
"A Raisin In The Sun"
1962
"The Longest Day"
"How The West Was Won"
"Lawrence Of Arabia"
"Lolita"
"Cape Fear"
"The Manchurian Candidate"
"That Touch of Mink"
"Mutiny On The Bounty"
"Dr. No"
"Ride The High Country"
"The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance"
"To Kill A Mockingbird"
1963
"The Thrill Of It All"
"The Pink Panther"
"The Nutty Professor"
"Tom Jones"
"Jason and the Argonauts"
"Cleopatra"
"Hud"
"Charade"
"The Ugly American"
"The Great Escape"
"From Russia With Love"
"Lilies Of The Field"
1964
"Send Me No Flowers"
"The Patsy"
"Dr. StrangeLove Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying About the Bomb"
"The Fall Of The Roman Empire"
"Becket"
"My Fair Lady"
"Mary Poppins"
"Goldfinger"
"A Fistful Of Dollars"
"Cheynne Autumn"
1965
"The Great Race"
"The Agony and The Ecstasy"
"The Greatest Story Ever Told"
"Doctor Zhivago"
"The Sound Of Music"
"The Cincinnati Kid"
"Thunderball"
"A Patch Of Blue"
1966
"The Shooting"
"What's Up, Tiger Lily?"
"The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming"
"The Sand Pebbles"
"A Man For All Seasons"
"Harper"
"The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly"
"Thr Professionals"
"Who's Afraid of Virgina Woolf?"
"The Wild Angels"
1967
"Doctor Dolittle"
"Barefoot In The Park"
"The Producers"
"Cool Hand Luke"
"Hombre"
"You Only Live Twice"
"Guess Who's Coming To Dinner"
"To Sir, With Love"
"In The Heat Of The Night"
"Bonnie and Clyde"
"The Graduate"
1968
"Finian's Rainbow"
"The Odd Couple"
"The Lion In Winter"
"Funny Girl"
"The Thomas Crown Affair"
"Bullitt"
"Once Upon A Time In The West"
"Night Of The Living Dead"
"Rosemary's Baby"
"Planet Of The Apes"
"2001: A Space Odyssey"
1969
"Paint Your Wagon"
"Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid"
"The Wild Bunch"
"Easy Rider"
"Putney Swope"
"Alice's Restaurant"
"Downhill Racer"
"Medium Cool"
"They Shoot Horses, Don't They?"
"Midnight Cowboy"
"True Grit"
1970
"Patton"
"Little Big Man"
"Five Easy Pieces"
"MAS*H"
"Husbands"
"Love Story"
1971
"The Last Picture Show"
"Play Misty For Me"
"The French Connection"
"Straw Dogs"
"Dirty Harry"
"Klute"
"THX 1138"
"Bananas"
"Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song"
"Shaft"
"Carnal Knowledge"
"McCabe & Mrs. Miller"
"Harold and Maude"
"Minnie and Moskowitz"
"A New Leaf"
"A Clockwork Orange"
"Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory"
1972
"The Getaway"
"Deliverance"
"The Godfather"
"Boxcar Bertha"
"Play It Again Sam"
"The Heartbreak Kid"
"Cabaret"
"Jeremiah Johnson"
"The Candidate"
"What's Up, Doc?"
"Sounder"
"Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex*"
1973
"Badlands"
"Scarecrow"
"The Long Goodbye"
"The Last Detail"
"Mean Streets"
"Sleeper"
"Serpico"
"Coffy"
"Enter The Dragon"
"American Graffiti"
"The Sting"
"The Way We Were"
"The Exorcist"
"Papillon"
"The Paper Chase"
"Save The Tiger"
"Don't Look Now"
"Paper Moon"
1974
"The Sugarland Express"
"The Godfather Part II"
"Blazing Saddles"
"Young Frankenstein"
"Foxy Brown"
"Lenny"
"Chinatown"
"A Woman Under The Influence"
"Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore"
"The Great Gatsby"
"The Conversation"
"The Parallax View"
"California Split"
1975
"Love and Death"
"Dog Day Afternoon"
"Sheba, Baby"
"One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest"
"Jaws"
"Nashville"
"Shampoo"
"The Rocky Horror Picture Show"
"Three Days Of The Condor"
"Monty Python and The Holy Grail"
1976
"Taxi Driver"
"Marathon Man"
"All The President's Men"
"Network"
"Rocky"
"The Outlaw Josey Wales"
"Carrie"
"Silver Streak"
"The Bad News Bears"
"Bound For Glory"
1977
"Annie Hall"
"Close Encounters Of The Third Kind"
"Opening Night"
"Saturday Night Fever"
"Star Wars: A New Hope"
"The Turning Point"
"The Goodbye Girl"
"Slap Shot"
"New York, New York"
"Julia"
"Smokey and The Bandit"
1978
"National Lampoon's Animal House"
"An Unmarried Woman"
"Grease"
"The Deer Hunter"
"Coming Home"
"Superman The Movie"
"Heaven Can Wait"
"Days Of Heaven"
"Midnight Express"
"Halloween"
1979
"Manhattan"
"Being There"
"All That Jazz"
"Apocalypse Now"
"Alien"
"The China Syndrome"
"Norma Rae"
"Breaking Away"
"Kramer Vs. Kramer"
1980
"Raging Bull"
"The Elephant Man"
"Coal Miner's Daughter"
"Cruising"
"Ordinary People"
"The Shining"
"Heaven's Gate"
"Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back"
"Airplane!"
"The Blues Brothers"
"9 to 5"
"Caddyshack"
1981
"Raiders of the Lost Ark"
"Escape from New York"
"Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior"
"Reds"
"Ragtime"
"The French Lieutenant's Woman"
"Chariots of Fire"
"On Golden Pond"
1982
"E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial"
"The Verdict"
"Gandhi"
"Blade Runner"
"Poltergeist"
"Sophie's Choice"
"Diner"
"Tootsie"
"The King of Comedy"
"Fast Times at Ridgemont High"
"Rocky III"
"48 Hrs."
"First Blood"
"Conan the Barbarian"
1983
"The Big Chill"
"Terms of Endearment"
"Zelig"
"The Right Stuff"
"Scarface"
"Flashdance"
"Trading Places"
"Risky Business"
"Star Wars: Return of the Jedi"
"Silkwood"
1984
"This is Spinal Tap"
"Ghostbusters"
"Beverly Hills Cop"
"The Natural"
"Purple Rain"
"Gremlins"
"Sixteen Candles"
"Splash"
"Police Academy"
"Footloose"
"A Nightmare on Elm Street"
"Amadeus"
"The Terminator"
"Broadway Danny Rose"
"Once Upon a Time in America"
"Blood Simple"
"Missing in Action"
"Stranger Than Paradise"
"The Killing Fields"
1985
"Back to the Future"
"Brazil"
"The Purple Rose of Cairo"
"The Goonies"
"Witness"
"Pee-Wee's Big Adventure"
"The Breakfast Club"
"Desperately Seeking Susan"
"Spies Like Us"
"Rambo: First Blood Part II"
"Rocky IV"
"Commando"
"Out of Africa"
1986
"Aliens"
"Platoon"
"Top Gun"
"Down and Out in Beverly Hills"
"Stand By Me"
"Crocodile Dundee"
"Ferris Bueller's Day Off"
"Three Amigos"
"Blue Velvet"
"Hannah and Her Sisters"
"Pretty in Pink"
"Hoosiers"
"The Color of Money"
1987
"The Princess Bride"
"Fatal Attraction"
"RoboCop"
"Empire of the Sun"
"Wall Street"
"Raising Arizona"
"Three Men and a Baby"
"Dirty Dancing"
"Lethal Weapon"
"Broadcast News"
"Ironweed"
"The Untouchables"
"Good Morning, Vietnam"
"Hamburger Hill"
"Full Metal Jacket"
"Predator"
"The Last Emperor"
"Moonstruck"
"Planes, Trains & Automobiles"
1988
"Who Framed Roger Rabbit"
"Coming to America"
"Big"
"Beetlejuice"
"Bull Durham"
"The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!"
"Working Girl"
"A Cry in the Dark"
"Mississippi Burning"
"Die Hard"
"Rain Man"
"Bloodsport"
1989
"Batman"
"Do the Right Thing"
"Drugstore Cowboy"
"Crimes and Misdemeanors"
"Sex, Lies and Videotape"
"Born on the Fourth of July"
"Dead Poets Society"
"My Left Foot"
"Field of Dreams"
"When Harry Met Sally..."
"Say Anything ..."
"Parenthood"
"The Little Mermaid"
"Glory"
"The Abyss"
1990
"Goodfellas"
"House Party"
"To Sleep with Anger"
"Pretty Woman"
"Edward Scissorhands"
"Dances with Wolves"
"Miller's Crossing"
"Awakenings"
"Ghost"
"Slacker"
"Blue Steel"
"Home Alone"
1991
"The Silence of the Lambs"
"Thelma and Louise"
"L.A. Story"
"JFK"
"Boyz n the Hood"
"Barton Fink"
"New Jack City"
"Daughters of the Dust"
"Point Break"
"The Prince of Tides"
"Hangin' with the Homeboys"
"Trust"
"Poison"
"Beauty and the Beast"
"Little Man Tate"
"Rambling Rose"
"Terminator 2: Judgement Day"
1992
"Basic Instinct"
"Malcolm X"
"Reservoir Dogs"
"Wayne's World"
"Juice"
"Just Another Girl on the I.R.T."
"Gas Food Lodging"
"A Few Good Men"
"Boomerang"
"Aladdin"
"The Last of the Mohicans"
"Unforgiven"
"A League of Their Own"
1993
"Philadelphia"
"Schindler's List"
"Groundhog Day"
"Mrs. Doubtfire"
"Poetic Justice"
"Six Degrees of Separation"
"Sleepless in Seattle"
"Dazed and Confused"
"The Nightmare Before Christmas"
"The Piano"
"Jurassic Park"
1994
"The Shawshank Redemption"
"Forrest Gump"
"Heavenly Creatures"
"Quiz Show"
"The Mask"
"Dumb and Dumber"
"Ace Ventura: Pet Detective"
"Crooklyn"
"Four Weddings and a Funeral"
"Clerks"
"Fresh"
"Pulp Fiction"
"The Lion King"
"Ed Wood"
"The Hudsucker Proxy"
"Little Women"
1995
"The Usual Suspects"
"Casino"
"Apollo 13"
"Higher Learning"
"While You Were Sleeping"
"Friday"
"The Basketball Diaries"
"Braveheart"
"Dead Presidents"
"Waiting to Exhale"
"How to Make an American Quilt"
"Bad Boys"
"Clueless"
"Welcome to the Dollhouse"
"The Brothers McMullen"
"Toy Story"
"Heat"
"Se7en"
1996
"The English Patient"
"Happy Gilmore"
"Waiting for Guffman"
"Set it Off"
"Independence Day"
"Jerry Maguire"
"Swingers"
"Hard Eight"
"Fargo"
"Grace of My Heart"
"Walking and Talking"
"Romeo + Juliet"
"Trainspotting"
1997
"L.A. Confidential"
"Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery"
"Soul Food"
"My Best Friend's Wedding"
"Men in Black"
"As Good As It Gets"
"Boogie Nights"
"Titanic"
"Contact"
"Rosewood"
1998
"Out of Sight"
"The Thin Red Line"
"Saving Private Ryan"
"Rushmore"
"The Wedding Singer"
"There's Something About Mary"
"Dr. Dolittle"
"How Stella Got Her Groove Back"
"The Big Lebowski"
"You've Got Mail"
1999
"The End of the Affair"
"Office Space"
"The Best Man"
"Runaway Bride"
"Notting Hill"
"Toy Story 2"
"Magnolia"
"The Matrix"
"The Sixth Sense"
"The Talented Mr. Ripley"
"The Blair Witch Project"
"Man on the Moon"
"The Cider House Rules"
"The Hurricane"
"American Beauty"
"Girl, Interrupted"
"The Insider"
"Election"
"Boys Don't Cry"
"The Virgin Suicides"
"Three Kings"
"Being John Malkovich"
"Fight Club"
"Star Wars: The Phantom Menace"
2000
"Gladiator"
"Erin Brockovich"
"Memento"
"Miss Congeniality"
"Cast Away"
"Almost Famous"
2001
"A Beautiful Mind"
"Ocean's Eleven"
"Legally Blonde"
"The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring"
"Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone"
"Training Day"
"Moulin Rouge!"
"The Royal Tenenbaums"
"Shrek"
"Monsters, Inc."
2002
"Minority Report"
"Ali"
"Chicago"
"My Big Fat Greek Wedding"
"Gangs of New York"
"Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"
"The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers"
"Men in Black II"
2003
"Something's Gotta Give"
"Lost in Translation"
"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
"Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl"
"Old School"
"Elf"
2004
"The Incredibles"
"Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind"
"Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban"
"The Bourne Supremacy"
"Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy"
2005
"Brokeback Mountain"
"The-40-Year-Old Virgin"
"Batman Begins"
2006
"The Devil Wears Prada"
"The Departed"
"Dreamgirls"
"The Holiday"
"Casino Royale"
"Little Miss Sunshine"
"Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan"
"Pan's Labyrinth"
"Children of Men"
2007
"There Will Be Blood"
"No Country for Old Men"
"Transformers"
"Knocked Up"
"Superbad"
2008
"Mamma Mia!"
"WALL-E"
"Slumdog Millionaire"
"Twilight"
"Step Brothers"
"The Dark Knight"
"Iron Man"
2009
"Up"
"It's Complicated"
"Inglourious Basterds"
"The Hangover"
"Avatar"
"The Hurt Locker"
"Precious"
2010
"True Grit"
"The Social Network"
"Black Swan"
"Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1"
"Winter's Bone"
"The Kids Are All Right"
2011
"Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2"
"Bridesmaids"
"Thor"
"Captain America: The First Avenger"
2012
"Django Unchained"
"Lincoln"
"The Master"
"Moonrise Kingdom"
"The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey"
"Zero Dark Thirty"
"Silver Linings Playbook"
"The Avengers"
"The Hunger Games"
"Good Deeds"
2013
"Fast & Furious 6"
"The Heat"
"Gravity"
"American Hustle"
"12 Years a Slave"
"Fruitvale Station"
2014
"Boyhood"
"The Grand Budapest Hotel"
"American Sniper"
"Guardians of the Galaxy"
"Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance)"
"Selma"
2015
"Mission: Impossible -- Rogue Nation"
"Spy"
"Joy"
"Ant-Man"
"Creed"
"Tangerine"
"The Revenant"
"Straight Outta Compton"
2016
"La La Land"
"Doctor Strange"
"Moonlight"
"Fences"
2017
"Spider-man: Homecoming"
"The Shape of Water"
"Mudbound"
"The Florida Project"
"Lady Bird"
"Get Out"
"Wonder Woman"
2018
"Avengers: Infinity War"
"Black Panther"
"Crazy Rich Asians"
"Roma"
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[NA] Completely updated the CinemaScore discussion!

What is CinemaScore and how are the ratings determined?
It is a Las Vegas research firm that surveys audiences from different cities about their viewing experience off of a paper given by CinemaScore employees themselves.
There are 25 cities all across the North American region where these surveys are handed out, but only 5 are chosen to actually implement their data from each week for each new wide release.
For this set of data, I have compiled 3,177 films that have attained a CinemaScore. I will go through each score and determine the best and worst performances of a film that has received that score. Let's begin.

A+

The almighty score that is worn as a badge of honor. A relatively difficult score to achieve as we look at 69 films since its lifetime.
Of every film that has reached this score, 40/69, or 57.9% have reached $100 million domestic with 62/69, or 89.85% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 6.27.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Schindler's List $96,065,768 $4,703,730 20.42 12/15/1993 R
Dances with Wolves $184,208,848 $9,491,623 19.41 11/9/1990 PG-13
Titanic $658,672,302 $35,455,673 18.58 12/19/1997 PG-13
Beauty and the Beast $218,967,620 $12,239,650 17.89 11/15/1991 G
Driving Miss Daisy $106,593,296 $6,494,882 16.41 12/15/1989 PG
Forrest Gump $330,252,182 $24,450,602 13.51 7/6/1994 PG-13
Die Hard $83,008,852 $7,105,514 11.68 7/15/1988 R
Aladdin $217,350,219 $19,289,073 11.27 11/13/1992 G
Dead Poets Society $95,860,116 $9,102,459 10.53 6/2/1989 PG
When Harry Met Sally... $92,823,546 $8,846,522 10.49 7/14/1989 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Avengers: Endgame $824,365,940 $357,115,007 2.31 4/26/2019 PG-13
Tyler Perry's Diary of a Mad Black Woman $50,633,099 $21,905,089 2.31 2/25/2005 PG-13
The Best Man Holiday $70,525,195 $30,107,555 2.34 11/15/2013 R
Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married? $55,204,525 $21,353,789 2.59 10/12/2007 PG-13
Patriots Day $31,886,361 $11,613,765 2.75 12/21/2016 R
Unplanned $18,105,038 $6,382,298 2.84 3/29/2019 R
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets $261,988,482 $88,357,488 2.97 11/15/2002 PG
The Avengers $623,357,910 $207,438,708 3.01 5/4/2012 PG-13
Akeelah and the Bee $18,848,430 $6,011,585 3.14 4/28/2006 PG
Lone Survivor $125,095,601 $37,849,910 3.31 12/25/2013 R
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 4.06
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 6.99
Nonetheless, if a film receives an A+, your film is destined to have fantastic legs, even for today's movie-going audience. Yes, the highest multipliers come from an awards season push. But even the worst possible situation isn't something to slouch on. Even if you are the biggest opening of all time.
Other notable films include:
Frozen
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
The Lion King
Finding Nemo
Coco
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
Up
The Incredibles
The Passion of the Christ
Tangled
Monsters, Inc.
American Sniper
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
Toy Story 2
The Fugitive
The Polar Express
The Blind Side
Mulan
Wonder
A Few Good Men
Hidden Figures
Argo
The Help
Lethal Weapon 2
Girls Trip
Remember the Titans
Ray
Love, Simon
Black Panther
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Incredibles 2

A

Of every film that has reached this score, 193/402, or 48% have reached $100 million domestic with 303/402, or 76% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 5.31.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Top Gun $179,800,601 $8,231,279 21.84 5/16/1986 PG
Ghost $217,631,306 $12,523,295 17.38 7/13/1990 PG-13
Platoon $138,530,565 $8,216,207 16.86 12/19/1986 R
Fatal Attraction $156,645,693 $9,347,602 16.76 9/18/1987 R
Children of a Lesser God $31,853,080 $2,038,900 15.62 10/3/1986 R
Sense and Sensibility $43,182,776 $2,907,705 14.85 12/15/1995 PG
Hannah and Her Sisters $40,084,041 $2,707,966 14.80 2/7/1986 PG-13
Pretty Woman $178,406,268 $12,471,670 14.30 3/23/1990 R
The Cider House Rules $57,545,092 $4,066,251 14.15 12/10/1999 PG-13
Big $114,968,774 $8,216,190 13.99 6/3/1988 PG
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
A Monster Calls $3,740,823 $2,080,051 1.80 12/23/2016 PG-13
One Direction: This Is Us $28,873,374 $15,815,497 1.83 8/30/2013 PG
For Colored Girls $37,729,698 $19,497,324 1.94 11/5/2010 R
Glee: The 3D Concert Movie $11,862,398 $5,961,231 1.99 8/12/2011 PG
Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married Too? $60,095,852 $29,289,537 2.05 4/2/2010 PG-13
The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 2 $292,324,737 $141,067,634 2.07 11/16/2012 PG-13
Tyler Perry's Meet the Browns $41,975,388 $20,082,809 2.09 3/21/2008 PG-13
Sparkle $125,095,601 $11,643,342 2.10 8/17/2012 PG-13
Tyler Perry's Madea's Family Reunion $63,257,940 $30,030,661 2.11 2/24/2006 PG-13
Power Rangers $85,364,450 $40,300,288 2.12 3/24/2017 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 3.32
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 5.85
We have chipped a little bit from the coveted A+ score, but it appears that getting an A is something to be praised for as the lowest multipliers feature films that are some of the most frontloaded films ever. Tyler Perry and concert films always have this issue and A Monster Calls had some of the worst marketing and theatrical releases I've seen.
Other notable films include:
Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Avatar
Avengers: Infinity War
Jurassic World
Furious 7
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Beauty and the Beast (2017)
The Fate of the Furious
Iron Man 3
Minions
Captain America: Civil War
Transformers: Dark of the Moon
Skyfall
The Dark Knight Rises
Toy Story 3
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Jurassic Park
Finding Dory
Zootopia
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
The Dark Knight
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
The Jungle Book (2016)
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Shrek 2
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Spider-Man: Homecoming
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Guardians of the Galaxy
Inside Out
Wonder Woman
Independence Day
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Deadpool
Maleficent
A Star is Born
Bohemian Rhapsody
Captain Marvel
Aladdin
Shazam!
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World

A-

Of every film that has reached this score, 209/655, or 32% have reached $100 million domestic with 458/655, or 70% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 4.46.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The English Patient $78,676,425 $4,340,950 18.12 11/15/1996 R
Moonstruck $80,640,528 $5,069,508 15.91 12/18/1987 PG
The Full Monty $45,950,122 $3,022,096 15.20 8/15/1997 R
Chicago $170,687,518 $12,708,956 13.43 12/27/2002 PG-13
Ruthless People $71,624,879 $5,434,671 13.18 6/27/1986 R
Dirty Dancing $63,954,274 $4,889,239 13.08 8/21/1987 PG-13
The Last Emperor $43,984,230 $3,398,662 12.94 11/20/1987 PG-13
Three Men and a Baby $167,780,960 $13,123,622 12.78 11/25/1987 PG
L.A. Confidential $64,616,940 $5,211,198 12.40 9/19/1997 R
As Good as It Gets $148,478,011 $12,606,928 11.78 12/23/1997 PG-13
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
All Eyez On Me $44,922,302 $26,435,354 1.70 6/16/2017 R
Endless Love $23,438,250 $13,307,125 1.76 2/14/2014 PG-13
On the Line $4,365,455 $2,307,063 1.89 10/26/2001 PG
About Last Night $48,637,684 $25,649,011 1.90 2/14/2014 R
Miss Sloane $3,500,605 $1,844,972 1.90 11/25/2016 R
Black Nativity $7,018,189 $3,669,530 1.91 11/27/2013 PG
Battle of the Year $8,888,355 $4,603,177 1.93 9/20/2013 PG-13
Kevin Hart's What Now? $23,591,043 $11,767,210 2.00 10/14/2016 R
Tyler Perry's The Single Moms Club $15,973,881 $8,075,111 1.98 3/14/2014 PG-13
Extraordinary Measures $12,068,313 $6,012,594 2.01 1/22/2010 PG
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 3.29
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 4.59
Once again, the better end of this list features films that had an awards season push. Blockbusters have always done well with this score, but smaller films that had poor marketing unfortunately get the short end of the stick.
Other notable films include:
Transformers: Age of Extinction
Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest
Despicable Me 3
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
Alice in Wonderland
Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle
The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs
Spectre
The Secret Life of Pets
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
Spider-Man
The Amazing Spider-Man
Gravity
Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol
The Sixth Sense
Man of Steel
Kung Fu Panda
Logan
Mamma Mia!
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
Ant-Man and the Wasp
The Grinch
Mary Poppins Returns
Aquaman
Bumblebee
The LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part
Alita: Battle Angel
Dumbo
Rocketman
John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
Pokemon Detective Pikachu

B+

Of every film that has reached this score, 130/638, or 20.4% have reached $100 million domestic with 383/638, or 60% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 3.72.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Crocodile Dundee $174,803,506 $10,560,827 16.55 9/26/1986 PG-13
American Beauty $130,096,601 $9,505,313 13.69 9/15/1999 R
There's Something About Mary $176,484,651 $13,740,644 12.84 7/15/1998 R
O Brother, Where Art Thou? $45,512,588 $3,647,208 12.48 12/22/2000 PG-13
Dangerous Liaisons $34,670,720 $2,840,201 12.21 12/23/1988 R
Pulp Fiction $107,928,762 $9,311,882 11.59 10/14/1994 R
Bull Durham $50,888,729 $5,111,244 9.96 6/17/1988 R
The Aviator $102,610,330 $11,364,664 9.03 12/17/2004 PG-13
Baby Boom $26,712,476 $3,052,491 8.75 10/9/1987 PG
Fargo $24,611,975 $2,812,662 8.75 3/8/1996 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Jem and the Holograms $2,184,640 $1,375,320 1.59 10/23/2015 PG
Life Itself $4,102,648 $2,123,463 1.93 9/21/2018 R
Warcraft $47,365,290 $24,166,110 1.96 6/10/2016 PG-13
A Good Year $7,459,300 $3,721,526 2.00 11/10/2006 PG-13
Lords of Dogtown $11,273,517 $5,623,373 2.00 6/3/2005 PG-13
Chasing Liberty $12,195,626 $6,081,483 2.01 1/9/2004 PG-13
Super Troopers 2 $30,551,330 $15,181,624 2.01 4/20/2018 R
Every Day $6,102,076 $3,016,149 2.02 2/23/2018 PG-13
The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 1 $281,287,133 $138,122,261 2.04 11/18/2011 PG-13
Antitrust $11,328,094 $5,486,209 2.06 1/12/2001 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 2.95
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 3.74
The better end of the list features all-time greats and the opposite end features rather interesting installments...
Overall, the B+ range isn't exactly something to celebrate. Your film is destined to perform fairly average for today's movie-going experience.
Other notable films include:
Pirates of the Carribean: On Stranger Tides
Spider-Man 3
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Inception
Shrek the Third
2012
The Da Vinci Code
Suicide Squad
The Matrix Reloaded
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
IT
Interstellar
Justice League
Hancock
The Lost World: Jurassic Park
Transformers: The Last Knight
War of the Worlds
The Revenant
Kingsman: The Secret Service
Ocean's Eleven
Mad Max: Fury Road
Edge of Tomorrow
A Quiet Place
Bridesmaids
Split
American Hustle
Skyscraper
Godzilla: King of the Monsters
Booksmart
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald
First Man
Venom
The Meg

B

Of every film that has reached this score, 69/524, or 13.1% have reached $100 million domestic with 262/524, or 49.8% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 3.37.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Sideways $71,503,593 $6,347,364 11.27 10/22/2004 R
Waking Ned Devine $24,792,251 $2,214,290 11.20 11/20/1998 PG
Wall Street $43,848,069 $4,454,390 9.84 12/11/1987 R
Raising Arizona $22,847,564 $2,451,750 9.32 3/13/1987 PG-13
Beetlejuice $73,707,461 $8,030,897 9.18 4/1/1988 PG
The War of the Roses $86,888,546 $9,488,794 9.16 12/8/1989 R
Elizabeth $30,082,699 $3,391,187 8.87 11/6/1998 R
Down and Out in Beverly Hills $62,134,225 $7,023,743 8.85 1/31/1986 R
The Shipping News $11,434,216 $1,306,653 8.75 12/25/2001 R
Traffic $124,115,725 $15,517,549 8.00 12/27/2000 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Winter's Tale $12,600,231 $7,297,694 1.73 2/14/2014 PG-13
Max Steel $3,818,664 $2,182,216 1.75 10/14/2016 PG-13
ATL $21,170,563 $11,554,404 1.83 3/31/2006 PG-13
Promised Land $7,597,898 $4,049,911 1.88 12/28/2012 R
The Girl in the Spider's Web $14,841,338 $7,810,112 1.90 11/9/2018 R
Elektra $24,409,722 $12,804,793 1.91 1/14/2005 PG-13
Code Name: The Cleaner $8,135,024 $4,244,142 1.92 1/5/2007 PG-13
The Last Stand $12,050,299 $6,281,433 1.92 1/18/2013 R
Against the Ropes $5,884,190 $3,038,546 1.94 2/20/2004 PG-13
The Fifth Estate $3,255,008 $1,673,351 1.95 10/18/2013 R
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 2.75
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 3.39
A step down, of course. As long as your film doesn't completely fucking suck and isn't directed by Zack Snyder, you should be fine.
Other notable films include:
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
I Am Legend
Mission: Impossible II
The Day After Tomorrow
Sherlock Holmes
Troy
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Clash of the Titans
The Mummy
Prometheus
Snow White and the Huntsman
Independence Day: Resurgence
Gone Girl
Deep Impact
Fantastic Four
Seven
The Devil Wears Prada
Resident Evil: The Final Chapter
Passengers
Battleship
The Truman Show
Annabelle
After Earth
Collateral
District 9
21 Jump Street
Gangs of New York
Tropic Thunder
12 Monkeys
Watchmen

B-

Of every film that has reached this score, 17/368, or 4.6% reached $100 million domestic with 125/368, or 33.96% having a multiplier higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 3.01.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Blue Velvet $8,551,228 $789,409 10.83 9/19/1986 R
The Hours $41,675,994 $4,644,924 8.97 12/27/2002 PG-13
The Color of Money $52,293,982 $6,357,877 8.23 10/17/1986 R
Match Point $23,151,529 $2,935,733 7.89 12/28/2005 R
Colors $46,616,067 $6,524,536 7.14 4/15/1998 R
The Ring $129,128,133 $18,488,259 6.98 10/18/2002 PG-13
Married to the Mob $21,486,757 $3,231,056 6.65 8/19/1988 R
Stealing Beauty $4,722,310 $721,008 6.55 6/14/1996 R
Babel $34,302,837 $5,558,095 6.17 10/27/2006 R
Spaceballs $38,119,483 $6,613,837 5.76 6/26/1987 PG
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Friday the 13th $65,002,019 $40,570,365 1.60 2/13/2009 R
Glitter $4,274,407 $2,414,596 1.77 9/21/2001 PG-13
Doom $28,212,337 $15,488,870 1.82 10/21/2005 R
Punisher: War Zone $8,050,977 $4,271,451 1.88 12/5/2008 R
Sucker Punch $36,392,502 $19,058,199 1.91 3/25/2011 PG-13
A Haunted House 2 $17,329,486 $8,843,875 1.96 4/18/2014 R
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein $22,006,296 $11,212,889 1.96 11/4/1994 R
All the King's Men $7,221,458 $3,672,366 1.97 9/22/2006 PG-13
Vampire Academy $7,791,979 $3,921,742 1.99 2/7/2014 PG-13
Tyler Perry Presents Peeples $9,177,065 $4,611,534 1.99 5/10/2013 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 2.70
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 3.01
Interesting Academy Award favorites versus frontloaded garbage. This score comes down to the quality to determine a film's box office performance.
Other notable films include:
Quantum of Solace
The Mummy (2017)
Jurassic Park III
Ocean's Twelve
Planet of the Apes (2003)
Robin Hood
Resident Evil: Afterlife
Scary Movie
Hulk
Godzilla (1998)
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
Geostorm
Jupiter Ascending
Miami Vice
Anaconda
Saw 3D
Casino
10 Cloverfield Lane
Fight Club
Zodiac
Lady in the Water
The First Purge
The Curse of La Llorona
Welcome to Marwen
Mortal Engines
X-Men: Dark Phoenix

C+

Of every film that has reached this score, 13/218, or 5.96% have reached $100 million domestic with 59/218, or 27% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.92.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Throw Momma From the Train $57,915,972 $7,318,878 7.91 12/11/1987 PG-13
The Money Pit $37,499,651 $5,344,555 7.02 3/28/1986 PG
The Talented Mr. Ripley $81,298,265 $12,738,237 6.38 12/25/1999 R
All the Pretty Horses $15,540,353 $2,477,053 6.27 12/25/2000 PG-13
Vice $47,836,282 $7,791,044 6.14 12/25/2018 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Collide $2,280,004 $1,512,824 1.51 2/24/2017 PG-13
Texas Chainsaw 3D $34,341,945 $21,744,470 1.58 1/4/2013 R
Bad Moon $1,055,525 $607,081 1.74 11/1/1996 R
Hardcore Henry $9,252,038 $5,107,604 1.81 4/8/2016 R
Mortdecai $7,696,134 $4,200,586 1.83 1/23/2015 R
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 2.26
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 2.79
Underwhelming films with large budgets are mixed with interesting indie flicks, but nowadays, these multipliers do not impress.
Other notable films include:
Fifty Shades of Grey
Hannibal
Lucy
Shutter Island
Rango
Batman and Robin
Wild Wild West
Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
Bewitched
A.I. Artificial Intelligence
Noah
Bad Teacher
Paranormal Activity 3
Superhero Movie
Zoolander
Alfie
Brightburn
Pet Semetary
The Predator
Upgrade
Life (2017)

C

Of every film that has reached this score, 4/127, or 3.15% have reached $100 million domestic with 28/127, or 22% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.75.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The White Ribbon $2,222,862 $177,780 12.50 12/30/2009 R
Adaptation. $22,498,520 $2,636,924 8.53 12/6/2002 R
Flawless $1,200,234 $181,910 6.60 3/28/2008 PG-13
The Wolf of Wall Street $116,900,694 $18,361,578 6.37 12/25/2013 R
Boogie Nights $26,400,640 $4,681,934 5.64 10/10/1997 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The Bye Bye Man $22,395,806 $13,501,349 1.66 1/13/2017 PG-13
Harsh Times $3,337,931 $1,968,505 1.70 11/10/2006 R
Blood and Chocolate $3,526,847 $2,074,300 1.70 1/26/2007 PG-13
Replicas $4,046,429 $2,375,325 1.70 1/11/2019 PG-13
The Woman in Black 2: Angel of Death $26,501,323 $15,027,415 1.76 1/2/2015 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $25M+ Highest Weekend: 2.32
Average Multiplier with <$25M Highest Weekend: 2.80
Other notable films include:
The Last Airbender
10,000 B.C.
The Village
Unbreakable
Cloverfield
Alien 3
The Beach
Saw V
Ouija
Syriana
Piranha 3D
Ouija: Origin of Evil
Annihilation
The Nun
Hellboy
Unfriended: Dark Web

C-

Of every film that has reached this score, none have reached $100 million domestic with 12/81, or 14.8% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.50.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The Royal Tenenbaums $52,364,010 $8,512,122 6.15 12/14/2001 R
How Do You Know $30,212,620 $7,484,696 4.04 12/17/2010 PG-13
Magnolia $22,455,976 $5,694,588 3.94 12/17/1999 R
Raising Cain $21,370,057 $6,203,825 3.44 8/7/1992 R
Mimic $25,480,490 $7,818,208 3.26 8/22/1997 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Undiscovered $1,069,318 $676,048 1.58 8/26/2005 PG-13
Stay $3,626,883 $2,188,199 1.66 10/21/2005 R
Paranormal Activity: The Marked Ones $32,462,372 $18,343,611 1.77 1/3/2014 R
Formula 51 $5,204,007 $2,817,719 1.85 10/18/2002 R
The Warrior's Way $5,666,340 $3,048,665 1.86 12/3/2010 R
Average Multiplier with $25M+ Highest Weekend: 2.39
Average Multiplier with <$25M Highest Weekend: 2.50
Good luck reaching profitability with this.
Other notable films include:
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Fantastic Four (2015)
Epic Movie
Meet the Spartans
Rings
Hostel
Scary Movie 5
Drive
Boogeyman
Hail, Caesar!
The Witch
Freddy Got Fingered
The Happytime Murders
Rings
Hotel Artemis

D+

Of every film that has reached this score, none have reached $100 million domestic with 7/34, or 21% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.49.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Punch-Drunk Love $17,844,216 $4,003,535 4.46 10/11/2002 R
Closer $33,987,757 $7,707,972 4.41 12/3/2004 R
Holmes and Watson $30,568,743 $7,411,522 4.12 12/25/2018 PG-13
The Thirteenth Floor $11,916,661 $3,322,416 3.59 5/28/1999 R
Hereditary $44,069,456 $13,575,173 3.25 6/8/2018 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The Order $7,660,806 $4,438,899 1.73 9/5/2003 R
Primeval $10,597,734 $6,048,315 1.75 1/12/2007 R
Battlefield Earth $21,471,685 $11,548,898 1.86 5/12/2000 PG-13
Marci X $1,648,818 $872,950 1.89 8/22/2003 R
Devil's Due $15,821,461 $8,308,220 1.90 1/17/2014 R
Average Multiplier with $10M+ Highest Weekend: 2.38
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 2.49
Other notable films include:
Alexander
Babylon A.D.
Chernobyl Diaries
The Circle
Blair Witch
Ultraviolet
Serenity

D

Of every film that has reached this score, one film reached $50 million domestic with 3/24, or 13% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.44.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou $24,020,403 $4,547,181 5.28 12/10/2004 R
The Pledge $19.733,089 $5,765,347 3.42 1/19/2001 R
American Psycho $15,070,285 $4,961,015 3.04 4/14/2000 R
Jeepers Creepers $37,904,175 $13,106,108 2.89 8/31/2001 R
Supernova $14,230,455 $5,778,639 2.46 1/14/2000 PG-13
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Movie 43 $8,840,453 $4,805,878 1.84 1/25/2013 R
The Big Bounce $6,489,476 $3,336,374 1.95 1/30/2004 PG-13
The Snowman $6,700,035 $3,372,565 1.99 10/20/2017 R
The Last Exorcism $41,034,350 $20,366,613 2.01 8/27/2010 PG-13
Apollo 18 $17,687,709 $8,704,271 2.03 9/2/2011 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $10M+ Highest Weekend: 2.29
Average Multiplier with <$10M Highest Weekend: 2.48
Other notable films include:
It Comes at Night
Splice
The Avengers (1998)
Envy
The Counselor
One Missed Call
The Happening

D-

Only one film in history managed to reach $100 million domestic and have a multiplier higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.50.
Here's a chart of every multiplier.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Vanilla Sky $100,618,344 $25,015,518 4.02 12/14/2001 R
Summer of Sam $19,288,130 $5,952,452 3.24 7/2/1999 R
The Ninth Gate $18,661,336 $6,622,518 2.82 3/10/2000 R
The American $35,606,376 $13,177,790 2.70 9/1/2010 R
Slender Man $30,569,484 $11,371,866 2.69 8/10/2018 PG-13
The Astronaut's Wife $10,672,566 $4,027,003 2.65 8/27/1999 R
Eyes Wide Shut $55,691,208 $21,706,163 2.57 7/16/1999 R
Dark Water $25,473,352 $9,939,251 2.56 7/8/2005 PG-13
Suburbicon $5,775,178 $2,840,246 2.03 10/27/2017 R
Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 $26,437,094 $13,223,887 2.00 10/27/2000 R
Skyline $21,393,620 $11,692,415 1.83 11/12/2010 PG-13
Willard $6,886,089 $4,010,593 1.72 3/24/2003 PG-13
Gigli $6,087,542 $3,753,518 1.62 8/1/2003 R
The rarest score to get, statistically. With the exception of Vanilla Sky, every other film has either fared decently, or crashed and burned.

F

No film with this score has reached $100 million domestic with 2/19, or 11% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.34.
Here's a chart of every multiplier.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Darkness $22,163,442 $6,163,306 3.60 12/25/2004 PG-13
Wolf Creek $16,188,180 $4,908,206 3.30 12/25/2005 R
Eye of the Beholder $16,500,786 $5,959,447 2.77 1/28/2000 R
Dr. T and the Women $13,113,041 $5,012,867 2.62 10/13/2000 R
The Wicker Man $23,649,127 $9,610,204 2.46 9/1/2006 PG-13
Disaster Movie $14,190,901 $5,836,973 2.43 8/29/2008 PG-13
mother! $17,800,004 $7,534,673 2.36 9/15/2017 R
fear dot com $13,258,249 $5,710,128 2.32 8/30/2002 R
In the Cut 4,750,602 $2,063,361 2.30 10/22/2003 R
Solaris $14,973,382 $6,752,722 2.22 11/27/2002 PG-13
Lucky Numbers $10,042,516 $4,536,625 2.21 10/27/2000 R
Killing Them Softly $15,026,056 $6,812,900 2.21 11/30/2012 R
Bug $7,025,810 $3,245,556 2.16 5/25/2007 R
I Know Who Killed Me $7,498,716 $3,506,291 2.14 7/27/2007 R
Lost Souls $16,815,253 $7,954,766 2.11 10/13/2000 R
The Box $15,051,977 $7,571,417 1.99 11/6/2009 PG-13
Silent House $12,754,783 $6,661,234 1.91 3/9/2012 R
Alone in the Dark $5,178,569 $2,834,421 1.83 1/28/2005 R
The Devil Inside $53,261,944 $33,732,515 1.58 1/6/2012 R
Bottom line, if your film gets this score without that Christmas release date, you're absolutely fucked.
Check out my initial post!
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[NA] Let's take a deep look into CinemaScore.

I've noticed that over the fast few months, every single discussion of the CinemaScore has divided the subreddit. Everyone has their own opinion as to whether we should take it into hard consideration or just throw it out the window when it comes to particular films.
So, I decided to whip out the spreadsheet, look at the numbers, and see if it truly makes a difference.
First off, what is CinemaScore and how are the ratings determined?
It is a Las Vegas research firm that surveys audiences from different cities about their viewing experience off of a paper given by CinemaScore employees themselves.
There are 25 cities all across the North American region where these surveys are handed out, but only 5 are chosen to actually implement their data from each week for each new wide release.
For this set of data, I have compiled 2,890 films that have attained a CinemaScore. I will go through each score and determine the best and worst performances of a film that has received that score. Let's begin.

A+

The almighty score that is worn as a badge of honor. A relatively difficult score to achieve as we look at 62 films since its 32 year lifetime.
Of every film that has reached this score, 37/61, or 61% have reached $100 million domestic with 56/61, or 90% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 6.55.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Schindler's List $96,065,768 $4,703,730 20.42 12/15/1993 R
Dances with Wolves $184,208,848 $9,491,623 19.41 11/9/1990 PG-13
Titanic $658,672,302 $35,455,673 18.58 12/19/1997 PG-13
Beauty and the Beast $218,967,620 $12,239,650 17.89 11/15/1991 G
Driving Miss Daisy $106,593,296 $6,494,882 16.41 12/15/1989 PG
Forrest Gump $330,252,182 $24,450,602 13.51 7/6/1994 PG-13
Die Hard $83,008,852 $7,105,514 11.68 7/15/1988 R
Aladdin $217,350,219 $19,289,073 11.27 11/13/1992 G
Dead Poets Society $95,860,116 $9,102,459 10.53 6/2/1989 PG
When Harry Met Sally... $92,823,546 $8,846,522 10.49 7/14/1989 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Tyler Perry's Diary of a Mad Black Woman $50,633,099 $21,905,089 2.31 2/25/2005 PG-13
The Best Man Holiday $70,525,195 $30,107,555 2.34 11/15/2013 R
Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married? $55,204,525 $21,353,789 2.59 10/12/2007 PG-13
Patriots Day $31,886,361 $11,613,765 2.75 12/21/2016 R
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets $261,988,482 $88,357,488 2.97 11/15/2002 PG
The Avengers $623,357,910 $207,438,708 3.01 5/4/2012 PG-13
Akeelah and the Bee $18,848,430 $6,011,585 3.14 4/28/2006 PG
Lone Survivor $125,095,601 $37,849,910 3.31 12/25/2013 R
Cinderella Man $61,649,911 $18,320,205 3.37 6/3/2005 PG-13
Black Panther $699,613,337 $202,003,951 3.46 2/16/2018 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 4.23
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 7.31
How interesting is it that the highest chart contains no films in the 21st century and the worst contains no films from the 20th century?
Nonetheless, if a film receives an A+, your film is destined to have fantastic legs, even for today's movie-going audience. Yes, the highest multipliers come from an awards season push. But even the worst possible situation isn't something to slouch on.
Let's see how well Incredibles 2 legs itself out.
Other notable films include:
Frozen
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
The Lion King
Finding Nemo
Coco
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
Up
The Incredibles
The Passion of the Christ
Tangled
Monsters, Inc.
American Sniper
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
Toy Story 2
The Fugitive
The Polar Express
The Blind Side
Mulan
Wonder
A Few Good Men
Hidden Figures
Argo
The Help
Lethal Weapon 2
Girls Trip
Remember the Titans
Ray
Love, Simon

A

Of every film that has reached this score, 182/371, or 49% have reached $100 million domestic with 287/371, or 77% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 5.46.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Top Gun $179,800,601 $8,231,279 21.84 5/16/1986 PG
Ghost $217,631,306 $12,523,295 17.38 7/13/1990 PG-13
Platoon $138,530,565 $8,216,207 16.86 12/19/1986 R
Fatal Attraction $156,645,693 $9,347,602 16.76 9/18/1987 R
Children of a Lesser God $31,853,080 $2,038,900 15.62 10/3/1986 R
Sense and Sensibility $43,182,776 $2,907,705 14.85 12/15/1995 PG
Hannah and Her Sisters $40,084,041 $2,707,966 14.80 2/7/1986 PG-13
Pretty Woman $178,406,268 $12,471,670 14.30 3/23/1990 R
The Cider House Rules $57,545,092 $4,066,251 14.15 12/10/1999 PG-13
Big $114,968,774 $8,216,190 13.99 6/3/1988 PG
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
A Monster Calls $3,740,823 $2,080,051 1.80 12/23/2016 PG-13
One Direction: This Is Us $28,873,374 $15,815,497 1.83 8/30/2013 PG
For Colored Girls $37,729,698 $19,497,324 1.94 11/5/2010 R
Glee: The 3D Concert Movie $11,862,398 $5,961,231 1.99 8/12/2011 PG
Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married Too? $60,095,852 $29,289,537 2.05 4/2/2010 PG-13
The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 2 $292,324,737 $141,067,634 2.07 11/16/2012 PG-13
Tyler Perry's Meet the Browns $41,975,388 $20,082,809 2.09 3/21/2008 PG-13
Sparkle $125,095,601 $11,643,342 2.10 8/17/2012 PG-13
Tyler Perry's Madea's Family Reunion $63,257,940 $30,030,661 2.11 2/24/2006 PG-13
Power Rangers $85,364,450 $40,300,288 2.12 3/24/2017 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 3.25
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 5.60
We have chipped a little bit from the coveted A+ score, but it appears that getting an A is something to be praised for as the lowest multipliers feature films that are some of the most frontloaded films ever. Tyler Perry and concert films always have this issue and A Monster Calls had some of the worst marketing and theatrical releases I've seen.
Poor Power Rangers.
Other notable films include:
Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Avengers: Infinity War
Jurassic World
Furious 7
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Beauty and the Beast (2017)
The Fate of the Furious
Iron Man 3
Minions
Captain America: Civil War
Transformers: Dark of the Moon
Skyfall
The Dark Knight Rises
Toy Story 3
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Jurassic Park
Finding Dory
Zootopia
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
The Dark Knight
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
The Jungle Book (2016)
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Shrek 2
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Spider-Man: Homecoming
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Guardians of the Galaxy
Inside Out
Wonder Woman
Independence Day
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Deadpool
Maleficent

A-

Of every film that has reached this score, 195/602, or 32% have reached $100 million domestic with 431/602, or 72% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 4.28.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The English Patient $78,676,425 $4,340,950 18.12 11/15/1996 R
Moonstruck $80,640,528 $5,069,508 15.91 12/18/1987 PG
The Full Monty $45,950,122 $3,022,096 15.20 8/15/1997 R
Chicago $170,687,518 $12,708,956 13.43 12/27/2002 PG-13
Ruthless People $71,624,879 $5,434,671 13.18 6/27/1986 R
Dirty Dancing $63,954,274 $4,889,239 13.08 8/21/1987 PG-13
The Last Emperor $43,984,230 $3,398,662 12.94 11/20/1987 PG-13
Three Men and a Baby $167,780,960 $13,123,622 12.78 11/25/1987 PG
L.A. Confidential $64,616,940 $5,211,198 12.40 9/19/1997 R
As Good as It Gets $148,478,011 $12,606,928 11.78 12/23/1997 PG-13
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
All Eyez On Me $44,922,302 $26,435,354 1.70 6/16/2017 R
Endless Love $23,438,250 $13,307,125 1.76 2/14/2014 PG-13
On the Line $4,365,455 $2,307,063 1.89 10/26/2001 PG
About Last Night $48,637,684 $25,649,011 1.90 2/14/2014 R
Miss Sloane $3,500,605 $1,844,972 1.90 11/25/2016 R
Black Nativity $7,018,189 $3,669,530 1.91 11/27/2013 PG
Battle of the Year $8,888,355 $4,603,177 1.93 9/20/2013 PG-13
Tyler Perry's The Single Moms Club $15,973,881 $8,075,111 1.98 3/14/2014 PG-13
Extraordinary Measures $12,068,313 $6,012,594 2.01 1/22/2010 PG
The Promise $8,224,288 $4,095,718 2.01 4/21/2017 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 3.29
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 4.35
Once again, the better end of this list features films that had an awards season push. Blockbusters have always done well with this score, but smaller films that had poor marketing unfortunately get the short end of the stick.
Other notable films include:
Transformers: Age of Extinction
Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest
Despicable Me 3
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
Alice in Wonderland
Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle
The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs
Spectre
The Secret Life of Pets
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
Spider-Man
The Amazing Spider-Man
Gravity
Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol
The Sixth Sense
Man of Steel
Kung Fu Panda
Logan
Mamma Mia!

B+

Of every film that has reached this score, 125/587, or 21% have reached $100 million domestic with 363/587, or 62% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 3.72.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Crocodile Dundee $174,803,506 $10,560,827 16.55 9/26/1986 PG-13
American Beauty $130,096,601 $9,505,313 13.69 9/15/1999 R
There's Something About Mary $176,484,651 $13,740,644 12.84 7/15/1998 R
O Brother, Where Art Thou? $45,512,588 $3,647,208 12.48 12/22/2000 PG-13
Dangerous Liaisons $34,670,720 $2,840,201 12.21 12/23/1988 R
Pulp Fiction $107,928,762 $9,311,882 11.59 10/14/1994 R
Bull Durham $50,888,729 $5,111,244 9.96 6/17/1988 R
The Aviator $102,610,330 $11,364,664 9.03 12/17/2004 PG-13
Baby Boom $26,712,476 $3,052,491 8.75 10/9/1987 PG
Fargo $24,611,975 $2,812,662 8.75 3/8/1996 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Jem and the Holograms $2,184,640 $1,375,320 1.59 10/23/2015 PG
Warcraft $47,365,290 $24,166,110 1.96 6/10/2016 PG-13
A Good Year $7,459,300 $3,721,526 2.00 11/10/2006 PG-13
Lords of Dogtown $11,273,517 $5,623,373 2.00 6/3/2005 PG-13
Chasing Liberty $12,195,626 $6,081,483 2.01 1/9/2004 PG-13
Super Troopers 2 $30,551,330 $15,181,624 2.01 4/20/2018 R
Every Day $6,102,076 $3,016,149 2.02 2/23/2018 PG-13
The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 1 $281,287,133 $138,122,261 2.04 11/18/2011 PG-13
Antitrust $11,328,094 $5,486,209 2.06 1/12/2001 PG-13
Insidious Chapter 2 $83,586,447 $40,272,103 2.08 9/13/2013 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 3.00
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 3.77
I'm actually surprised at how well There's Something About Mary did.
The better end of the list features all-time greats and the opposite end features rather interesting installments...
Overall, the B+ range isn't exactly something to celebrate. Your film is destined to perform fairly average for today's movie-going experience.
Other notable films include:
Pirates of the Carribean: On Stranger Tides
Spider-Man 3
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Inception
Shrek the Third
2012
The Da Vinci Code
Suicide Squad
The Matrix Reloaded
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
IT
Interstellar
Justice League
Hancock
The Lost World: Jurassic Park
Transformers: The Last Knight
War of the Worlds
The Revenant
Kingsman: The Secret Service
Ocean's Eleven
Mad Max: Fury Road
Edge of Tomorrow
A Quiet Place
Bridesmaids
Split
American Hustle

B

Of every film that has reached this score, 66/481, or 14% have reached $100 million domestic with 240/481, or 50% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 3.37.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Sideways $71,503,593 $6,347,364 11.27 10/22/2004 R
Waking Ned Devine $24,792,251 $2,214,290 11.20 11/20/1998 PG
Wall Street $43,848,069 $4,454,390 9.84 12/11/1987 R
Raising Arizona $22,847,564 $2,451,750 9.32 3/13/1987 PG-13
Beetlejuice $73,707,461 $8,030,897 9.18 4/1/1988 PG
The War of the Roses $86,888,546 $9,488,794 9.16 12/8/1989 R
Elizabeth $30,082,699 $3,391,187 8.87 11/6/1998 R
Down and Out in Beverly Hills $62,134,225 $7,023,743 8.85 1/31/1986 R
The Shipping News $11,434,216 $1,306,653 8.75 12/25/2001 R
Traffic $124,115,725 $15,517,549 8.00 12/27/2000 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Winter's Tale $12,600,231 $7,297,694 1.73 2/14/2014 PG-13
Max Steel $3,818,664 $2,182,216 1.75 10/14/2016 PG-13
Promised Land $7,597,898 $4,049,911 1.88 12/28/2012 R
Elektra $24,409,722 $12,804,793 1.91 1/14/2005 PG-13
Code Name: The Cleaner $8,135,024 $4,244,142 1.92 1/5/2007 PG-13
The Last Stand $12,050,299 $6,281,433 1.92 1/18/2013 R
The Fifth Estate $3,255,008 $1,673,351 1.95 10/18/2013 R
Watchmen $107,509,799 $55,214,334 1.95 3/6/2009 R
Saw VI $27,693,292 $14,118,444 1.96 10/23/2009 R
Valentine's Day $110,485,654 $56,260,707 1.96 2/12/2010 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 2.76
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 3.40
A step down, of course. As long as your film doesn't completely fucking suck and isn't directed by Zack Snyder, you should be fine. And no, The Last Stand featured in this list is not the X-Men installment.
Other notable films include:
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
I Am Legend
Mission: Impossible II
The Day After Tomorrow
Sherlock Holmes
Troy
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Clash of the Titans
The Mummy
Prometheus
Snow White and the Huntsman
Independence Day: Resurgence
Gone Girl
Deep Impact
Fantastic Four
Seven
The Devil Wears Prada
Resident Evil: The Final Chapter
Passengers
Battleship
The Truman Show
Annabelle
After Earth
Collateral
District 9
21 Jump Street
Gangs of New York
Tropic Thunder
12 Monkeys

B-

Of every film that has reached this score, 17/327, or 5.2% reached $100 million domestic with 109/327, or 33% having a multiplier higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 3.00.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Blue Velvet $8,551,228 $789,409 10.83 9/19/1986 R
The Hours $41,675,994 $4,644,924 8.97 12/27/2002 PG-13
The Color of Money $52,293,982 $6,357,877 8.23 10/17/1986 R
Match Point $23,151,529 $2,935,733 7.89 12/28/2005 R
Colors $46,616,067 $6,524,536 7.14 4/15/1998 R
The Ring $129,128,133 $18,488,259 6.98 10/18/2002 PG-13
Married to the Mob $21,486,757 $3,231,056 6.65 8/19/1988 R
Stealing Beauty $4,722,310 $721,008 6.55 6/14/1996 R
Babel $34,302,837 $5,558,095 6.17 10/27/2006 R
Spaceballs $38,119,483 $6,613,837 5.76 6/26/1987 PG
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Friday the 13th $65,002,019 $40,570,365 1.60 2/13/2009 R
Glitter $4,274,407 $2,414,596 1.77 9/21/2001 PG-13
Punisher: War Zone $8,050,977 $4,271,451 1.88 12/5/2008 R
Sucker Punch $36,392,502 $19,058,199 1.91 3/25/2011 PG-13
A Haunted House 2 $17,329,486 $8,843,875 1.96 4/18/2014 R
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein $22,006,296 $11,212,889 1.96 11/4/1994 R
All the King's Men $7,221,458 $3,672,366 1.97 9/22/2006 PG-13
Vampire Academy $7,791,979 $3,921,742 1.99 2/7/2014 PG-13
Tyler Perry Presents Peeples $9,177,065 $4,611,534 1.99 5/10/2013 PG-13
The Thing $16,928,670 $8,493,665 1.99 10/14/2011 R
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 2.70
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 3.00
Interesting Academy Award favorites versus frontloaded garbage. I feel as if this score comes down to the quality to determine a film's box office performance.
Other notable films include:
Quantum of Solace
The Mummy (2017)
Jurassic Park III
Ocean's Twelve
Planet of the Apes (2003)
Robin Hood
Resident Evil: Afterlife
Scary Movie
Hulk
Godzilla (1998)
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
Geostorm
Jupiter Ascending
Miami Vice
Anaconda
Saw 3D
Casino
10 Cloverfield Lane
Fight Club
Zodiac
Lady in the Water

C+

Of every film that has reached this score, 13/199, or 6.55% have reached $100 million domestic with 50/199, or 25% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.71.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Throw Momma From the Train $57,915,972 $7,318,878 7.91 12/11/1987 PG-13
The Money Pit $37,499,651 $5,344,555 7.02 3/28/1986 PG
The Talented Mr. Ripley $81,298,265 $12,738,237 6.38 12/25/1999 R
Fair Game $9,540,691 $1,560,189 6.12 11/5/2010 PG-13
The Blair Witch Project $140,539,099 $29,207,381 4.81 7/16/1999 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Collide $2,280,004 $1,512,824 1.51 2/24/2017 PG-13
Texas Chainsaw 3D $34,341,945 $21,744,470 1.58 1/4/2013 R
Bad Moon $1,055,525 $607,081 1.74 11/1/1996 R
Hardcore Henry $9,252,038 $5,107,604 1.81 4/8/2016 R
Mortdecai $7,696,134 $4,200,586 1.83 1/23/2015 R
Average Multiplier with $50M+ Highest Weekend: 2.26
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 2.72
We have now reached the panic range. Underwhelming films with large budgets are mixed with interesting indie flicks, but nowadays, these multipliers do not impress.
Other notable films include:
Fifty Shades of Grey
Hannibal
Lucy
Shutter Island
Rango
Batman and Robin
Wild Wild West
Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
Bewitched
A.I. Artificial Intelligence
Noah
Bad Teacher
Paranormal Activity 3
Superhero Movie
Zoolander
Alfie

C

Of every film that has reached this score, 3/112, or 2.6% have reached $100 million domestic with 23/112, or 21% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.79.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The White Ribbon $2,222,862 $177,780 12.50 12/30/2009 R
Adaptation. $22,498,520 $2,636,924 8.53 12/6/2002 R
Flawless $1,200,234 $181,910 6.60 3/28/2008 PG-13
The Wolf of Wall Street $116,900,694 $18,361,578 6.37 12/25/2013 R
Boogie Nights $26,400,640 $4,681,934 5.64 10/10/1997 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The Bye Bye Man $22,395,806 $13,501,349 1.66 1/13/2017 PG-13
Harsh Times $3,337,931 $1,968,505 1.70 11/10/2006 R
Blood and Chocolate $3,526,847 $2,074,300 1.70 1/26/2007 PG-13
The Woman in Black 2: Angel of Death $26,501,323 $15,027,415 1.76 1/2/2015 PG-13
Paranormal Activity 4 $53,900,335 $29,003,866 1.86 10/19/2012 R
Average Multiplier with $25M+ Highest Weekend: 2.33
Average Multiplier with <$25M Highest Weekend: 2.83
Interesting to see The Wolf of Wall Street on here.
Other notable films include:
The Last Airbender
10,000 B.C.
The Village
Unbreakable
Cloverfield
Alien 3
The Beach
Saw V
Ouija
Syriana
Piranha 3D
Ouija: Origin of Evil
Annihilation

C-

Of every film that has reached this score, none have reached $100 million domestic with 9/67, or 13% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.48.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The Royal Tenenbaums $52,364,010 $8,512,122 6.15 12/14/2001 R
How Do You Know $30,212,620 $7,484,696 4.04 12/17/2010 PG-13
Magnolia $22,455,976 $5,694,588 3.94 12/17/1999 R
Raising Cain $21,370,057 $6,203,825 3.44 8/7/1992 R
The Informant $33,316,821 $10,464,314 3.18 9/18/2009 R
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Undiscovered $1,069,318 $676,048 1.58 8/26/2005 PG-13
Stay $3,626,883 $2,188,199 1.66 10/21/2005 R
Paranormal Activity: The Marked Ones $32,462,372 $18,343,611 1.77 1/3/2014 R
Formula 51 $5,204,007 $2,817,719 1.85 10/18/2002 R
The Warrior's Way $5,666,340 $3,048,665 1.86 12/3/2010 R
Average Multiplier with $25M+ Highest Weekend: 2.39
Average Multiplier with <$25M Highest Weekend: 2.48
Good luck reaching profitability with this.
Other notable films include:
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Fantastic Four (2015)
Epic Movie
Meet the Spartans
Rings
Hostel
Scary Movie 5
Drive
Boogeyman
Hail, Caesar!
The Witch
Freddy Got Fingered

D+

Of every film that has reached this score, none have reached $100 million domestic with 5/30, or 17% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.41.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Punch-Drunk Love $17,844,216 $4,003,535 4.46 10/11/2002 R
Closer $33,987,757 $7,707,972 4.41 12/3/2004 R
The Thirteenth Floor $11,916,661 $3,322,416 3.59 5/28/1999 R
Pinocchio $3,684,305 $1,151,463 3.20 12/25/2002 G
The New World $12,712,093 $4,029,715 3.15 12/25/2005 PG-13
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The Order $7,660,806 $4,438,899 1.73 9/5/2003 R
Primeval $10,597,734 $6,048,315 1.75 1/12/2007 R
Battlefield Earth $21,471,685 $11,548,898 1.86 5/12/2000 PG-13
Marci X $1,648,818 $872,950 1.89 8/22/2003 R
Devil's Due $15,821,461 $8,308,220 1.90 1/17/2014 R
Average Multiplier with $10M+ Highest Weekend: 2.13
Average Multiplier with <$50M Highest Weekend: 2.47
Aside from Closer, this list does not surprise me.
Other notable films include:
Alexander
Babylon A.D.
Chernobyl Diaries
The Circle
Blair Witch
Ultraviolet
Hereditary

D

Of every film that has reached this score, one film reached $50 million domestic with 3/23, or 13% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.45.
Here's a chart of the best multipliers.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou $24,020,403 $4,547,181 5.28 12/10/2004 R
The Pledge $19.733,089 $5,765,347 3.42 1/19/2001 R
American Psycho $15,070,285 $4,961,015 3.04 4/14/2000 R
Jeepers Creepers $37,904,175 $13,106,108 2.89 8/31/2001 R
Supernova $14,230,455 $5,778,639 2.46 1/14/2000 PG-13
Now for the worst.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Movie 43 $8,840,453 $4,805,878 1.84 1/25/2013 R
The Big Bounce $6,489,476 $3,336,374 1.95 1/30/2004 PG-13
The Snowman $6,700,035 $3,372,565 1.99 10/20/2017 R
The Last Exorcism $41,034,350 $20,366,613 2.01 8/27/2010 PG-13
Apollo 18 $17,687,709 $8,704,271 2.03 9/2/2011 PG-13
Average Multiplier with $10M+ Highest Weekend: 2.29
Average Multiplier with <$10M Highest Weekend: 2.50
It is a crime that American Psycho is in the same list as Movie 43 and Apollo 18.
Other notable films include:
It Comes at Night
Splice
The Avengers (1998)
Envy
The Counselor
One Missed Call
The Happening

D-

Only one film in history managed to reach $100 million domestic and have a multiplier higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.26.
Here's a chart of every multiplier.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Vanilla Sky $100,618,344 $25,015,518 4.02 12/14/2001 R
The Ninth Gate $18,661,336 $6,622,518 2.82 3/10/2000 R
The American $35,606,376 $13,177,790 2.70 9/1/2010 R
The Astronaut's Wife $10,672,566 $4,027,003 2.65 8/27/1999 R
Eyes Wide Shut $55,691,208 $21,706,163 2.57 7/16/1999 R
Dark Water $25,473,352 $9,939,251 2.56 7/8/2005 PG-13
Suburbicon $5,775,178 $2,840,246 2.03 10/27/2017 R
Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 $26,437,094 $13,223,887 2.00 10/27/2000 R
Skyline $21,393,620 $11,692,415 1.83 11/12/2010 PG-13
Willard $6,886,089 $4,010,593 1.72 3/24/2003 PG-13
Gigli $6,087,542 $3,753,518 1.62 8/1/2003 R
The rarest score to get, statistically. With the exception of Vanilla Sky, every other film has either fared decently, or crashed and burned.

F

No film with this score has reached $100 million domestic with 2/19, or 11% having multipliers higher than 3x. The average multiplier stands at a 2.34.
Here's a chart of every multiplier.
Movie Title Domestic Total Highest Weekend Multiplier Release Date Rating
Darkness $22,163,442 $6,163,306 3.60 12/25/2004 PG-13
Wolf Creek $16,188,180 $4,908,206 3.30 12/25/2005 R
Eye of the Beholder $16,500,786 $5,959,447 2.77 1/28/2000 R
Dr. T and the Women $13,113,041 $5,012,867 2.62 10/13/2000 R
The Wicker Man $23,649,127 $9,610,204 2.46 9/1/2006 PG-13
Disaster Movie $14,190,901 $5,836,973 2.43 8/29/2008 PG-13
mother! $17,800,004 $7,534,673 2.36 9/15/2017 R
fear dot com $13,258,249 $5,710,128 2.32 8/30/2002 R
In the Cut 4,750,602 $2,063,361 2.30 10/22/2003 R
Solaris $14,973,382 $6,752,722 2.22 11/27/2002 PG-13
Lucky Numbers $10,042,516 $4,536,625 2.21 10/27/2000 R
Killing Them Softly $15,026,056 $6,812,900 2.21 11/30/2012 R
Bug $7,025,810 $3,245,556 2.16 5/25/2007 R
I Know Who Killed Me $7,498,716 $3,506,291 2.14 7/27/2007 R
Lost Souls $16,815,253 $7,954,766 2.11 10/13/2000 R
The Box $15,051,977 $7,571,417 1.99 11/6/2009 PG-13
Silent House $12,754,783 $6,661,234 1.91 3/9/2012 R
Alone in the Dark $5,178,569 $2,834,421 1.83 1/28/2005 R
The Devil Inside $53,261,944 $33,732,515 1.58 1/6/2012 R
Bottom line, if your film gets this score without that Christmas release date, you're absolutely fucked.
Please, let me know what your conclusions are. To me, it seems consistent that the higher the score, the better the legs. This isn't the case for every movie, of course, but the CinemaScore is a solid way to figure out the film's performance.
Let me know what I did wrong, how I can improve on this, and what your feelings are! It's been a pleasure!!
EDIT: Thank you for the gold, fellow box office follower!
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